Page 13 of 13 FirstFirst ... 3111213
Results 121 to 124 of 124

Thread: DeLay conviction overturned

  1. #121
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:59 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    89,827

    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Jury error.

    There have been other cases of judge or jury error as well, which is why there are Appeals.

    I thought most people knew that.

    There was no juror error. They heard the case and decided the evidence presented to them warranted conviction. The two Republicans then substituted their own judgment for the 12 Texas jurors A way to reward a fellow Republican who turned over a decade of legislative rule to the Party. The only error was by those two Republican judges.

    And you still have not pointed out the so called similarities in the Simpson case and the DeLay case. They are nothing alike.
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

  2. #122
    Sage


    Thoreau72's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:41 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    20,276

    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    If the Jury reaches an incorrect guilty verdict (no existing law was violated at the time of the incident)
    and trail judges misses or ignores the miscarriage of justice, it is the job of the appeals court to
    overturn such convictions.
    Our Justice system is weighted towards innocence, which is why a Judge or an appeals court
    may not overturn a Jury's not guilty verdict.
    I agree with what you say, all the way. I'm an advocate of jury nullification.

    It seems to me that if the facts and evidence supported "not guilty", the defense should have moved for a directed verdict, and the court should have accepted it and ruled thusly.

    I assume that as is usually the case, the defense DID move for a directed verdict, but the court did not grant it. Don't know the details, but it is a safe assumption. Perhaps DeLay had a bad attorney, but I doubt it.

    My guess is the jury delivered justice, and that the appeals court delivered typical corruption.

  3. #123
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There was no juror error. They heard the case and decided the evidence presented to them warranted conviction. The two Republicans then substituted their own judgment for the 12 Texas jurors A way to reward a fellow Republican who turned over a decade of legislative rule to the Party. The only error was by those two Republican judges.

    And you still have not pointed out the so called similarities in the Simpson case and the DeLay case. They are nothing alike.
    The cases were not alike yes. Everyone understands that.

    But the juries in both cases erred. Otherwise, in the Delay case, the decision would not have been overturned. Do you really need a list of cases where juries, or judges, have been wrong??? This s hard to believe!!

  4. #124
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:59 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    89,827

    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The cases were not alike yes. Everyone understands that.

    But the juries in both cases erred. Otherwise, in the Delay case, the decision would not have been overturned. Do you really need a list of cases where juries, or judges, have been wrong??? This s hard to believe!!
    Not at all. The decision of 12 texans in the DeLay case was overturned simply because the two republican appeals judges would not have rendered the same veridict in the case as those 12 who sat there day after day and actuall heard all the evidence. They gave a reward to a fellow republican for his service to the party.
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

Page 13 of 13 FirstFirst ... 3111213

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •