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    Re: Navy Yard: Swat Team 'Stood Down' at mass shooting scene[W:13]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Retreat seems to be a standing order in the Obama government.
    Here's how a situation like this works: when a bad thing happens, a red line to Obama is immediately rung. If he does nothing, then it's all his fault. Actually, it's just all his fault.
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    Re: Navy Yard: Swat Team 'Stood Down' at mass shooting scene

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This would be hard to criticize, in my opinion. They may have felt they had enough response -- or had no way for everyone deployed to communicate with everyone else. THAT short-coming could spell disaster.

    No criticism here without more information.
    Precisely this. You Monday Morning Quarterbacks would fudge your undies at the first sight of an emergency like this, or Benghazi. Don't act like internet tough guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Generally I would agree with you. It should be the smart thing to do. But it may not turn out that way.

    The federal government, run by Obama, is involved. One thing his administration has made clear, they won't really investigate anything if there is any chance they may not look good in the outcome. Based on it's record, the "fix' is already in motion.
    This is utter inanity on an almost metaphysical plane.
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    Re: Navy Yard: Swat Team 'Stood Down' at mass shooting scene

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    A mentally-ill man goes on a rampage, police agencies screw up their internal communication during the crisis... and it's all Obama's fault. Honest to god, some people only use their brains for a set decoration.
    I don't even like Obama, but the utter derangement it takes for people to blame THIS on him ... it would be disgusting if it wasn't so sad.

    Anyone who claims Bush got it as bad from the left as Obama does from the right is a blithering idiot.
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    Re: Navy Yard: Swat Team 'Stood Down' at mass shooting scene

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So far in this thread...

    It's Obama's fault...
    SWAT teams are terrorists and pet killers...
    This is Benghazi all over again...
    Yes.

    SWAT Teams, Flash-Bang Grenades, Shooting the Family Pet: The Shocking Outcomes of Police Militarization in the War on Drugs | Alternet

    Police decision to shoot dog questioned | abc11.com

    The Drug War Goes to the Dogs | Cato Institute

    Mayor wants federal probe after SWAT raids house, kills dogs - CNN.com

    And Your Little Dog, Too | National Review Online

    I can provide documented evidence proving so (see above). Can you provide anything legitimate to counter other than your own uninformed personal bias?
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    Re: Navy Yard: Swat Team 'Stood Down' at mass shooting scene

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    A mentally-ill man goes on a rampage, police agencies screw up their internal communication during the crisis... and it's all Obama's fault. Honest to god, some people only use their brains for a set decoration.
    Well, to be fair to Obama it must be mentioned that he was down in Corpus Christi, Texas directing traffic at the scene of a head on fatality collison. Although I think when the Commander in Chief is called away for a traffic accident that Biden should have stepped in.

    Same thing happened with 9-11, where was Bush to stop the second plane crashing into the twin towers? Later found out he was driving the fire truck to a house fire in Rantoul, Ill.

    These presidents just come short.

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    Re: Navy Yard: Swat Team 'Stood Down' at mass shooting scene

    Only a few incidents here and there don't speak for 5,000 SWAT teams in over 200 major American cities. Can you provide statistical evidence? Here, let's start:

    How many animals have been killed by SWAT team members as opposed to the general populace? I'd like a source which states incidents per 100,000 deployments of SWAT.
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    Re: Navy Yard: Swat Team 'Stood Down' at mass shooting scene

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Only a few incidents here and there don't speak for 5,000 SWAT teams in over 200 major American cities. Can you provide statistical evidence? Here, let's start:

    How many animals have been killed by SWAT team members as opposed to the general populace? I'd like a source which states incidents per 100,000 deployments of SWAT.
    In other words, no you cannot provide anything other than your own uninformed personal bias. Duly noted.
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    Re: Navy Yard: Swat Team 'Stood Down' at mass shooting scene

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    In other words, no you cannot provide anything other than your own uninformed personal bias. Duly noted.
    You said you could provide evidence. I asked you for something more than blogs and Op-Eds. C'man radcen - put up. Can you show us how many SWAT incidents per 100,000 deployments result in the deaths of animals?
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    Re: Navy Yard: Swat Team 'Stood Down' at mass shooting scene

    Yes, you could fill pages with such examples.

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