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    Warren Buffet Says Scrap Obamacare Start over[W:67]

    Warren Buffett: Scrap Obamacare and Start Over | The Weekly Standard

    "Healthcare costs in the United States are like a tapeworm eating at our economic body.

    "Those words come from famed investor Warren Buffett, who said he would scrap Obamacare and start all over.

    "'We have a health system that, in terms of costs, is really out of control,' he added. 'And if you take this line and you project what has been happening into the future, we will get less and less competitive. So we need something else.'

    "Buffett insists that without changes to Obamacare average citizens will suffer.
    "'Attack the costs first, and then worry about expanding coverage,' he said. 'I would much rather see another plan that really attacks costs. And I think that's what the American public wants to see. I mean, the American public is not behind this bill.'"

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    Re: Warren Buffet Says Scrap Obamacare Start over


    I agree. Scrap it. The only people who "like" Obama care are the people on the left who will support, in a hyper-partisan manner, anything that their side puts to paper. Most free thinking liberals I know dislike Obamacare as much as many conservatives (although for some different reasons)

    A big reason I voted for Obama in 2008 was the possibility of UHC and a single payer system. What we got was a bloated piece of crap that continues to serve big business above all.

    I say scrap it and work on medicare for all.

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    Re: Warren Buffet Says Scrap Obamacare Start over

    I usually don't like this kind of video (and the edits make it kind of annoying to watch) but I actually enjoyed the content of this video, and thought it was fairly accurate and well presented.




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    Re: Warren Buffet Says Scrap Obamacare Start over

    Couldn't agree more. The problem with Obamacare is that it addresses symptoms rather than addressing the problem. The problem seems to be that hospitals come up with arbitrary charge schemes. Not such a bad idea for a business to do that except this is healthcare we're talking about and not buying a sandwich. Why not just come up with a cap system for what hospitals can charge? Maybe also think of ways to increase competition among hospitals. Don't make people buy insurance if they don't need it, can't afford it, or can't navigate it. Just lower costs so a trip to the hospital for both an insured person and a non-insured person is manageable financially?

    Obamacare's solution: Well, it's too difficult to address the problems, so we'll just make everyone pay more. Doesn't take thousands of pages to say that.

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    Re: Warren Buffet Says Scrap Obamacare Start over

    Yes, my main criticism has always been that it addresses coverage but misses on cost dramatically.

    And no, tort reform and crossing state lines is not a magic bullet solution to this.

    edit: that, and the fact that it's further entrenching a faulty fee-for-service model.
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    Re: Warren Buffet Says Scrap Obamacare Start over

    Buffet is right. Let's scrap it, and start over, but let's not just go back to what we had before "Obamacare" was passed. The costs were already unsustainable, and had been for quite some time.
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    Obamacare isn't a health care law. It's an insurance law. It does nothing to address costs other than increase some with new taxes. I've always maintained that addressing costs should be the first priority. Congress has already screwed up the health care market by colluding with insurance companies that guaranteed their profits often to the detriment of the health care consumer. If congress were full of doctors instead of lawyers Obamacare would never have passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Obamacare isn't a health care law. It's an insurance law. It does nothing to address costs other than increase some with new taxes. I've always maintained that addressing costs should be the first priority. Congress has already screwed up the health care market by colluding with insurance companies that guaranteed their profits often to the detriment of the health care consumer. If congress were full of doctors instead of lawyers Obamacare would never have passed.
    If it were full of doctors instead of lawyers we'd probably have seen a large increase in Medicare payouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If it were full of doctors instead of lawyers we'd probably have seen a large increase in Medicare payouts.
    Maybe so. Maybe justified. Different subject though.

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    Re: Warren Buffet Says Scrap Obamacare Start over

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Obamacare isn't a health care law. It's an insurance law. It does nothing to address costs other than increase some with new taxes. I've always maintained that addressing costs should be the first priority. Congress has already screwed up the health care market by colluding with insurance companies that guaranteed their profits often to the detriment of the health care consumer. If congress were full of doctors instead of lawyers Obamacare would never have passed.
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