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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Good point and a great place to start. You can take your pecker in one hand and your toothbrush in the other, take a piss, and brush your teeth. Same with breathing. Try not breathing and taking a long pee. The video games require an immersion level of concentration to be successful in the game. A true vicarious experience. Try that taking a pee and gaming. In your pants, I guess. I've repaired thousands and owned hundreds of arcade video games. You have to be a good player to be a good repairman so I speak from first hand experience. I never took any game habits home with me, but often wondered how it would affect youthful, not fully developed, minds. Perhaps that is what we are seeing or it's just our Corporate induced callous attitude toward our unsustainable life style. Nature always seeks balance.
    Hey, I'm not going to argue that your 11 year old still developing shouldn't be playing Black Ops 2. Then again, your 11 year old can't legally get Call of Duty Black Ops 2 unless their parents decide to purchase it for them. It's rated M for mature, meaning 17+ to buy it. Same goes for the majority of the more "realistic" games that are "violent" in nature.

    Could a 11 year old growing up playing realistic looking violent games with poor parental supervision or teaching in terms of the context one needs to understand with such games cause some issues? Sure, I'd say that's possible. That same 11 year old watching gory and violent Rated R movies in a similar fashion ALSO is likely to be having similar problems. Which takes me back to my original point, Video Games are the scape goat that makes nice sensationalized stories in the media and an easy target...but the reality are underlying issues. In terms of children playing games they can't even legally buy, the issue is parenting not video games.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Hey, I'm not going to argue that your 11 year old still developing shouldn't be playing Black Ops 2. Then again, your 11 year old can't legally get Call of Duty Black Ops 2 unless their parents decide to purchase it for them. It's rated M for mature, meaning 17+ to buy it. Same goes for the majority of the more "realistic" games that are "violent" in nature.

    Could a 11 year old growing up playing realistic looking violent games with poor parental supervision or teaching in terms of the context one needs to understand with such games cause some issues? Sure, I'd say that's possible. That same 11 year old watching gory and violent Rated R movies in a similar fashion ALSO is likely to be having similar problems. Which takes me back to my original point, Video Games are the scape goat that makes nice sensationalized stories in the media and an easy target...but the reality are underlying issues. In terms of children playing games they can't even legally buy, the issue is parenting not video games.
    I have to concur on the parenting.

    Does the name Lt. Colonel Dave Grossman ring a bell ?

    >"Grossman's law enforcement presentation, "The Bulletproof Mind," covered several subjects in a systematic and understandable progression. He laid the basis for his training by illustrating how we are living in the most violent and brutal times in modern peacetime history. He compared the statistics for assault and murder throughout the world, and extrapolated the numbers taking technological advances in emergency medicine, transportation, and communications into consideration. The colonel described America today as being far more dangerous than even Dodge City in the 1880s. In this context he examined the law enforcement officer's role as the foundation on which modern civilization and democracy rest.

    Colonel Grossman next gave a comprehensive explanation of gunfight dynamics from start to aftermath. Drawing from his own research, as well as building on the work of others, Grossman described the anatomy and physiology of changes the body goes through in a life-or-death situation. He spoke about changes in brain function, rational thought, and perception in relation to accelerated heart rates. He described the proportionate crash that follows an adrenaline peak, and the resulting risk to officer safety from reduced mental efficiency.

    In simple and understandable terms, Grossman went over the psychology of the act of killing. Taking another human being's life is a highly unnatural act. People must be conditioned through proper training to overcome this natural revulsion, and to react automatically when it becomes necessary. In the aftermath, it is a given that specific physical and mental symptoms will manifest themselves. When they do, the condition is known as Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder or PTSD for short. PTSD can result in severe depression, suicide, and destroyed families. Proper officer survival training should include the recognition of PTSD, and how to respond to it. The effects of PTSD can be mitigated by how we respond to others who have been involved in a critical incident.

    Colonel Grossman unveiled what he believes to be the largest single threat to modern civilization: violent media and video games. As a soldier, this nemesis is Grossman's new Evil Empire, and he attacks it with a vengeance. Since television was introduced in the 1950s people have been gradually desensitized to violence, and conditioned to choose violence as an acceptable or even admirable method of solving problems. In television and movies, whenever an injustice needs to be righted, or a character becomes bothersome the solution is to blow them away. It's quick, provides instant gratification, and makes the purveyor of the act a hero. Who wants to suffer through a problem for months and work through it rationally, spiritually, or through communication? Yes, I was skeptical. We've all watched those movies and played video games with no conscious effect on our minds, but the statistics presented by Grossman weighed heavily in favor of his position. The operative word here is "conscious." As an expert in Psy-Ops (psychological) warfare, Grossman is well aware of the subliminal influence of the media. When it is pointed out it becomes painfully obvious that we have been effected..."<
    continue.-> Impact of Gossman's Lecture on Media and Video Game Violence

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I guess my issue in terms of video games is why stop there? What's the ulterior motive here that it seems they're the ONLY type of violent media being talked about. Shall we force them to install V-Chip like devices to their Televisions to block out any television show with the designation of V for Violence or FV for Fantasy Violence? Ban the sell of PG-13 and Rated R movies to them that have some form of voilence as a reason for their rating? Shall we ban them from purchasing books that have violent scenes or topics? Shall we be sure they aren't able to buy violent songs, like for example one talking about lighting up the sky with bombs and putting boots up peoples asses?

    People keep talking about "correlation". Almost every abortion clinic bombing or murder of workers in such clinics has occured by someone whose religious. Shall we also be banning the Bible from mentally handicapped as well?
    Let's start slow and see where it goes. Primarily mental health issues seems to be the flashpoint - guns and violence in video games may just be the fuel.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

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    You never know. I play bejeweled for hours and sometimes get this insane urge to go into a jewelry store and match up all the stones. I never act on it of course but you could imagine if I did.
    That's cause you're a woman.
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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Cat View Post
    ZOMGZZZZZOOMGOGMOGOMO!!!!!!! TEABAGGERS111111

    BAN ALL GUNS!!!!!!!!! NRA, GOP, RACISISM.......BLAH BLAH BLAH

    However, lets never ever consider the culture we are raising our children in & the complete lack of respect for human life it now seems to have.........it would be EASIER to just take away protected freedoms, our dealing with mental health issues for that matter
    Yeah because the NRA shows such respect for human life.

    The conservative reversomeme in full display mode.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Now listen up...this may be a shocker: Humans are humans. Along with communication and building stuff, we also excell at killing each other. Been doing it for millenia, with rocks, sticks, axs, swords, hammers, string....guns are just the next step. As soon as someone figures it out, we'll be doing it telepathically. What's the common denominator? Humans. Not rocks, not sticks, not guns.
    Then let's ban guns and give people like Alexis sticks. If it doesn't make any difference, nobody should complain.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Yeah because the NRA shows such respect for human life.

    The conservative reversomeme in full display mode.
    what idiocy. the NRA supports freedom and freedom respects lives. IT must really bug you to have found out that the killer was a black male who supported obamatardation rather than a tea partier that would have given you massive opportunities to spew MEME over and over and over



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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Then let's ban guns and give people like Alexis sticks. If it doesn't make any difference, nobody should complain.
    lets banish gun banners and shoot the criminals they support so we can cut down on violent crime. Gun banners want criminals to operate freely, openly and without danger



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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Then let's ban guns and give people like Alexis sticks. If it doesn't make any difference, nobody should complain.
    Yes, lets give second amendment rights to al Qaida and deny them to US citizens!

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, lets give second amendment rights to al Qaida and deny them to US citizens!
    lets treat those who want to ban guns as violent criminals since their desires are to allow violent criminals to operate in a safe environment



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