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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Exactly how is what I'm saying indicating my "partisan slip" is showing?



    Actually, you absolutely DID offer an opinion by claiming it was an "alarming percentage". That is an OPINION...unless you're suggesting to me that there is some sort of measurable metric to declare something "alarming".



    What "Truth" is it ignoring?



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    Again, you're entering the realm of opinion. "Heavy User" is not some kind of defined term. What constitutes a "heavy user" as opposed to a "user"? Outside of a handful of news reports, what proof or evidence is there that those individuals are "heavy users".

    However, for the sake of playing...sure, a significant percentage of mass shooters have reportedly played video games.



    I'm sorry, there's a "public record" defining "Heavy user"? And I didn't realize statements of OPINION by people who know an individual are somehow now considered "Facts".

    So if I say (Mac, forgive me, you're the next poster I see so just using you as an example, I mean no offense) "Man, Mac is addicted to eating cheesburgers off the ass of fat asian men" that means it's a fact because I stated it and therefore it must be true?

    Please, if there's been news reports with actual facts regarding logs taken from the computers/consoles of these guys stating the amount of total play time, or they've gotten data from their online accounts in terms of hours logged over a certain amount of time, and information relating that to whether or not that is above the average for video gamers in the country (Therefore a "heavy" user rather than an "average" user)....point me to it.

    All that I've generally seen is random accusations and claims by people who know the person.



    Sure, I'm not going to say it's unlikely that many of these murderers played video games. Actually, I'm sure most of them did.

    My disagreement with you, and others, is the attempted inference that somehow one leads to, or relates, to the other. You claim *My* partisan slip...whatever that is...is showing, how about your own? The fact you focus singularly on Video Games calls your own intentions massively into question. Simply because it sells papers and is more sensational to talk about Video Games then if a person has a TV in their home doesn't change that very real likelihood that a significant percentage of mass murders own a television...listen to music....have read a book....etc Video Games deserves no more scrutiny, or demand for "explanation", than any of those.
    I used terms contained in reports drawing attention to the correlation.

    I appreciate that it is likely you are a user of video games, including violent ones. My son is also a fan.

    I also understand you're going to reject any suggestion of a correlation and any attempt to regulate no matter what contribution is proven.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    There was a time not so long ago when LP records by comedians were commonplace. There weren't random outbreaks of comedy on the streets at the time, or since.
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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You realize your "growing connection" is no more valid, worth while, intelligent, or necessitating further action than the things you just stated, right? The ignorant logic utilize to come to your conclusion about the "growing connection" to video games can be applied in the EXACT SAME MANNER to the things you just stated.
    Why yes, of course I realize it can be applied in the EXACT SAME MANNER.

    I suppose one would have to be ignorant to think I wouldn't realize that.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Probably pee'd, and took regular breaths. Doesn't escape what appears to be a growing connection.

    I know, must not dis the vaunted video games!!!
    Exactly. MacDonalds turns people into mass murderers! Down with MacDonalds!!!!1!1!1!1111111
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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I used terms contained in reports drawing attention to the correlation.

    I appreciate that it is likely you are a user of video games, including violent ones. My son is also a fan.

    I also understand you're going to reject any suggestion of a correlation and any attempt to regulate no matter what contribution is proven.
    I don't reject there's a correlation.

    What I reject the notion that such a correlation is necessitating any more concern, governmental action, or attention at this moment than the MULTITUDE of other things that correlate with mass murderers.

    I reject the continued inference and suggestion that Correlation equals causation or even strongly suggests it to be such.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Why yes, of course I realize it can be applied in the EXACT SAME MANNER.

    I suppose one would have to be ignorant to think I wouldn't realize that.
    So should we seek to limit pee'ing and breathing since there's a "growing correlation" between those things as well?

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So should we seek to limit pee'ing and breathing since there's a "growing correlation" between those things as well?
    And MacDonalds...DON'T FORGET MACDONALDS! THE PINK GOO!!!!11111!!111
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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So should we seek to limit pee'ing and breathing since there's a "growing correlation" between those things as well?
    Good point and a great place to start. You can take your pecker in one hand and your toothbrush in the other, take a piss, and brush your teeth. Same with breathing. Try not breathing and taking a long pee. The video games require an immersion level of concentration to be successful in the game. A true vicarious experience. Try that taking a pee and gaming. In your pants, I guess. I've repaired thousands and owned hundreds of arcade video games. You have to be a good player to be a good repairman so I speak from first hand experience. I never took any game habits home with me, but often wondered how it would affect youthful, not fully developed, minds. Perhaps that is what we are seeing or it's just our Corporate induced callous attitude toward our unsustainable life style. Nature always seeks balance.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The same "morbid" fascination that causes children to play Cops and Robbers or Cowboys and Indians and other such things. The same "morbid" fascination people have with reading and watching and listening to historical accounts of war. The same "morbid" fascination that people have with watching police footage of chase scenes. The same "morbid" fascination people have with watching boxing or the UFC or football. The same "morbid" fascination that people have with playing paintball or shooting at more realistic target pictures at a range. The same reason people have a "Morbid" fascination with reading books with the main character depicting someone in the military, law enforcement, etc.

    Shockingly, those type of things aren't typically focused on nearly as much because the Paster at the local fundamentalist church doesn't think it's destroying the souls of our children and older people everywhere look down their nose at it with disdain as being somehow significantly different than other forms of media.

    I played cops and robbers as a youth, and I've seen Call of Duty, care to try again?

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Good point and a great place to start. You can take your pecker in one hand and your toothbrush in the other, take a piss, and brush your teeth. Same with breathing. Try not breathing and taking a long pee. The video games require an immersion level of concentration to be successful in the game. A true vicarious experience. Try that taking a pee and gaming. In your pants, I guess. I've repaired thousands and owned hundreds of arcade video games. You have to be a good player to be a good repairman so I speak from first hand experience. I never took any game habits home with me, but often wondered how it would affect youthful, not fully developed, minds. Perhaps that is what we are seeing or it's just our Corporate induced callous attitude toward our unsustainable life style. Nature always seeks balance.
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