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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I've been hearing a few news stories lately about new research which indicates that violent video games do have a link with a higher propensity for violence in real life. Not sure if it's proven, but there does appear to be a correlation.
    My guess is that it isn't really the game that creates the mental instability but rather than the mental instability is somehow or other leads to an obsession with games. The core of psychotic behavior seems to be obsession of some sort. Perhaps the person is obsessed with pornography or putting their belongings in order or video games or whatever else but the telltale sign seems to be obsessive behavior.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Guns of all types have been around for quite some time. Yet, it would seem the suggestion is the violence is escallating. Why weren't these events as prevelent decades ago? What is different today, that wasn't around before?

    It seems fingers are pointing to violent video games, wouldn't that be fair to say, since there is a growing correlation between these wack jobs, and their obsession with these war game video scenarios?
    There's also a correlation between mentally ill individuals not getting the help they need. The loss of Federal funding for mental institutions might be cause as well. There's also the possibility that a mentally deranged individual sees media coverage of school shootings and decides to go on a rampage. There's a lot of different reasons...some make a lot more sense than others.

    The "violent video game" excuse is a red herring. We know individuals with mental problems aren't getting the care they need. We also know that individuals with mental problems are having no problems getting a hold of weapons. Those are two obvious direct concerns.
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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Type, size, etc.. Let's not pretend there have been no gun control measures enacted over the last 30+ years.
    Very few, and very ineffective ones. Every other item that causes a high number of fatalities is far more restricted then guns.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    when you are able to repeatedly kill in a video game with out any repercussions other then a high score in the insane it will loosen the inhabitations of what ever is left of their constituents that tells them it is wrong to do so in real life



    so they it will become instinct to kill without thinking right from wrong. the make them numb to the fact when I pull they trigger some one will die they don't want them to hesitate about taking a life when you do some thing repeatedly you are able to do so without thought
    How about they are mentally ill and should probably be in a hospital rather than out on the street? There's a lot of direct problems...mentally ill individuals not taken care of and mentally ill individuals having easy access to guns.
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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    There's also a correlation between mentally ill individuals not getting the help they need. The loss of Federal funding for mental institutions might be cause as well. There's also the possibility that a mentally deranged individual sees media coverage of school shootings and decides to go on a rampage. There's a lot of different reasons...some make a lot more sense than others.

    The "violent video game" excuse is a red herring. We know individuals with mental problems aren't getting the care they need. We also know that individuals with mental problems are having no problems getting a hold of weapons. Those are two obvious direct concerns.

    The "violent video game" connection is documented, no matter how much you want to defend it.

    Since the connection exists, perhaps there should be psychological testing of anyone wanting to purchase these violent games. At minimum it might be wise to have people register their games, and even institute a waiting period before allowing the buyers to take possession.

    The mental illness issue is a concern. Ever since the ACLU successfully changed the way mentally ill people are treated, the growning threat from these unfortunate people has become real. This is an issue that needs discussion.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Very few, and very ineffective ones. Every other item that causes a high number of fatalities is far more restricted then guns.
    I'm sorry, but your claim is not true. There have been certain gun type banned from sale over the last 30 years.

    Forgive me, but when you begin to make over the top statements like "every other item", it's probably time to disengage.

    I think it's time.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    The "violent video game" connection is documented, no matter how much you want to defend it.

    Since the connection exists, perhaps there should be psychological testing of anyone wanting to purchase these violent games. At minimum it might be wise to have people register their games, and even institute a waiting period before allowing the buyers to take possession.

    The mental illness issue is a concern.
    Ever since the ACLU successfully changed the way mentally ill people are treated, the growing threat from these unfortunate people has become real. This is an issue that needs discussion.



    I agree.

    And as part of the discussion an action plan should be formulated.

    Then the plan needs to be implemented.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    How about they are mentally ill and should probably be in a hospital rather than out on the street? There's a lot of direct problems...mentally ill individuals not taken care of and mentally ill individuals having easy access to guns.
    Blame it on the ACLU, they were the ones who said that nuts should have the choice if they want treatment and be confined or live on the streets with no means of support.

    So when all of the nuts poured out of the mental institutions you had all of these empty nut houses empty of nuts. So Governor Reagan had this stupid belief that state employees shouldn't be paid for doing nothing so he closed down all of the state mental institutions.

    This was the beginning of the homeless problem in America, You had tens of thousands of all kinds of nuts competing for the limited resources that use to go to the winos living on the street. As the problem grew, the liberals realised they got it wrong again with their social engineering so they blamed Reagan for closing down the empty mental hospitals.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I'm sorry, but your claim is not true. There have been certain gun type banned from sale over the last 30 years.

    Forgive me, but when you begin to make over the top statements like "every other item", it's probably time to disengage.

    I think it's time.
    Give me an example of one that does not....
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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    My guess is that it isn't really the game that creates the mental instability but rather than the mental instability is somehow or other leads to an obsession with games. The core of psychotic behavior seems to be obsession of some sort. Perhaps the person is obsessed with pornography or putting their belongings in order or video games or whatever else but the telltale sign seems to be obsessive behavior.
    I don't think that the game creates the mental instability, but rather becomes an alternate reality of sorts, and desensitizes the individual to the real effects of violence.
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