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    Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    What would happen if absolutely no weapons were to be available?
    Something you cant guarantee. Drugs are illegal yet over the last 20 years questionnaires at high-schools have shown up to 70+% of kids believe they have easy access to marajuana.

    There will always be bad people wanting to do bad things, the answer is not infringing on the rights of law abiding citizens but dealing directly with the criminals.

    A hit and run is not justification to ban all cars, an alcohol related incident is not justification to ban all alcohol, just like a shooting is not justification to ban all guns.

    Despite murder with guns being down 49%
    since the 90s.....

    "A survey by the Pew Centre earlier this year found that 56 per cent of Americans polled believed that gun crime is higher now than two decades ago. Only 12 per cent correctly thought that gun crime was lower."

    Thats the result of our government propaganda machine.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    What would happen if absolutely no weapons were to be available?
    A hypothetical situation that would never happen. You might as well ask "what would happen if we had world peace?". It's along the same fantasy lines as your question.

    There will ALWAYS be weapons. Even in prisons where weapons aren't allowed at all, inmates still manage to find something to make into a weapon.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    What would happen if absolutely no weapons were to be available?
    That would certainly fix it.

    However, since the Chinese first invented the hand cannon thousands of years ago, Handguns of all sorts have been available. That Pandora's box is open. There is no way to rid the entire world of guns, it is a pipe dream contemplate such a thing
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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    What would happen if absolutely no weapons were to be available?
    Name one country that has absolutely no weapons.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    I think the people trying to blame this on video games (and there are many) are ludicrous.

    Long before video games existed, children were playing cops and robbers, or cowboys and indians. Was this priming young minds to become mass murderers? Of course not.

    In almost EVERY case of mass shooting in modern history it has been determined that the shooter was seeing a psychologist and/or had a history of mental illness.

    Why is it people immediately jump to "its the guns" or " violent video games!" "rap music"

    A rational person knows that just because something can be done in a game does make it acceptable to do outside the game.
    Actually I haven't seen where anyone has laid the blame squarely upon violent video games, it has been both suggested and asked what the connection might be however considering all of the last four mass shooters didn't just play them but had OBSESSIONS with them, psychotropic drugs are another commonality, trouble getting along in society was another commonality, ignored warnings is another commonality and gun free zones is a common factor as well. Btw, playing cops and robbers, doesn't even come close to the gratuitous violence depicted in the rather revolting video games these shooters have been obsessed with.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    What would happen if absolutely no weapons were to be available?
    It would have to literally mean NO GUNS, none. None on the planet, a biblical utopian whereby they had all been turned into farming implements (a novel ideal to be sure, but...........) or do you just mean the law abiding peasants have no guns, because we can see where the ruling class would be interested in advancing that notion for ulterior motives. I say, as I do with nukes, everybody has them or nobody has them.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Actually I haven't seen where anyone has laid the blame squarely upon violent video games, it has been both suggested and asked what the connection might be however considering all of the last four mass shooters didn't just play them but had OBSESSIONS with them, psychotropic drugs are another commonality, trouble getting along in society was another commonality, ignored warnings is another commonality and gun free zones is a common factor as well. Btw, playing cops and robbers, doesn't even come close to the gratuitous violence depicted in the rather revolting video games these shooters have been obsessed with.
    Yes, but you also need to take a look at the obsession and why. There are people that have obsessive behaviors and can be obsessed to almost anything. If there weren't video games, it could be movies. If there were no movies, it could be guns. If there weren't guns, it could be weapons. And the list goes on and on.

    Too many people want to blame ONE thing for the ills of the world and that simply is not only unrealistic it misses the point completely.

    It's not video games that are the problem. The problem is the people that commit the crimes.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, but you also need to take a look at the obsession and why. There are people that have obsessive behaviors and can be obsessed to almost anything. If there weren't video games, it could be movies. If there were no movies, it could be guns. If there weren't guns, it could be weapons. And the list goes on and on.

    Too many people want to blame ONE thing for the ills of the world and that simply is not only unrealistic it misses the point completely.

    It's not video games that are the problem. The problem is the people that commit the crimes.
    Why are you quoting me when saying that and putting all caps to "ONE" when I very clearly listed a host of factors and laid blame to neither of them??

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Why are you quoting me when saying that and putting all caps to "ONE" when I very clearly listed a host of factors and laid blame to neither of them??
    Sorry, I should have just quoted about the obsession part and I just wanted to mention the other things. If I implied you said anything about ONE I apologize.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Sorry, I should have just quoted about the obsession part and I just wanted to mention the other things. If I implied you said anything about ONE I apologize.
    That's cool man, thanks for the clarification.

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