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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I've been hearing a few news stories lately about new research which indicates that violent video games do have a link with a higher propensity for violence in real life. Not sure if it's proven, but there does appear to be a correlation.
    I dare someone to do the same study on a link between violent rap music and a higher propensity for violence....
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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I dare someone to do the same study on a link between violent rap music and a higher propensity for violence....
    how about rap and crack abuse?



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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    lets treat those who want to ban guns as violent criminals since their desires are to allow violent criminals to operate in a safe environment
    Yes, and law makers that attempt it get Coloradoed.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, and law makers that attempt it get Coloradoed.
    works for me.



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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    And there are millions who own guns who don't go on a mass shooting spree.

    However, there is a common connection to these mass murders, and the murderers who commit them.

    The connection is becoming quite obvious and difficult to refute.
    It is clear that it is the combination of a few key issues. First issue is the mental health treatment issues in this country. It seems everyone wants the "right" to hide their mental health issues even when these issues may be/are a potential hazard for society. There are certain things that should be privy in order to determine an individual's threat to society.

    The other issue is, in a society where mental health issues go virtually ignored, there is easy access to firearms. You can do all the background checks you want, but if mental health issues are rarely reported on/treated, they will never show up on a background check. We have created a "perfect storm" here and seem to be unwilling to solve the problem.

    If, perhaps, there were intensive mental health exams required prior to owning a firearm, this may catch some of these issues with mass shootings. However, mass shootings is only the tip of the iceburg when it comes to gun violence in this country. The main culprit is the easy access to firearms. Just the shear number of firearms floating around out there makes it nearly impossible to control who can and cant get ahold of one.
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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    It is clear that it is the combination of a few key issues. First issue is the mental health treatment issues in this country. It seems everyone wants the "right" to hide their mental health issues even when these issues may be/are a potential hazard for society. There are certain things that should be privy in order to determine an individual's threat to society.

    The other issue is, in a society where mental health issues go virtually ignored, there is easy access to firearms. You can do all the background checks you want, but if mental health issues are rarely reported on/treated, they will never show up on a background check. We have created a "perfect storm" here and seem to be unwilling to solve the problem.

    If, perhaps, there were intensive mental health exams required prior to owning a firearm, this may catch some of these issues with mass shootings. However, mass shootings is only the tip of the iceburg when it comes to gun violence in this country. The main culprit is the easy access to firearms. Just the shear number of firearms floating around out there makes it nearly impossible to control who can and cant get ahold of one.
    the main culprit was the victim disarmament zone. That area was something you should love-honest people disarmed so criminals can kill lots of people before one of the few armed officers could kill him

    every scheme you support is least likely to disarm crazed pre meditated killers and most likely to make his victims unable to defend themselves

    which of course is what you want



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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    It is clear that it is the combination of a few key issues. First issue is the mental health treatment issues in this country. It seems everyone wants the "right" to hide their mental health issues even when these issues may be/are a potential hazard for society. There are certain things that should be privy in order to determine an individual's threat to society.

    The other issue is, in a society where mental health issues go virtually ignored, there is easy access to firearms. You can do all the background checks you want, but if mental health issues are rarely reported on/treated, they will never show up on a background check. We have created a "perfect storm" here and seem to be unwilling to solve the problem.

    If, perhaps, there were intensive mental health exams required prior to owning a firearm, this may catch some of these issues with mass shootings. However, mass shootings is only the tip of the iceburg when it comes to gun violence in this country. The main culprit is the easy access to firearms. Just the shear number of firearms floating around out there makes it nearly impossible to control who can and cant get ahold of one.
    What if authorites could have acted on all the flags on this guy without fear of racial profiling? That confrontation and crap that follows make authorities overlook obvious violent people when they are minorities.

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the main culprit was the victim disarmament zone. That area was something you should love-honest people disarmed so criminals can kill lots of people before one of the few armed officers could kill him

    every scheme you support is least likely to disarm crazed pre meditated killers and most likely to make his victims unable to defend themselves

    which of course is what you want
    What would happen if absolutely no weapons were to be available?

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    Re: Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    What would happen if absolutely no weapons were to be available?
    The argument that making guns more difficult to acquire disarms legal owners is a circular argument. An argument the gun lobby banks on in order to push more guns out of the factory door. Many people who use this argument completely ignore the fact that guns used by those who are breaking the law purchased the guns from people who purchased them legally. The more guns that are sold, the more guns there will be out there that make it into criminal hands. Which increases gun violence, which in turn scares people to the gun shops to buy guns. Its circular....

    Almost every country has issues with mental health treatment. China is one of them. People in china go on knife attack rampages all the time. But generally, they are able to kill at most 1 person, or just injure several people. That is because guns are not widely available in China. If guns were widely avilable in China you would see the same individuals going around cutting people up, shooting people like they are here in the U.S.
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    Aaron Alexis: Washington navy yard gunman obsessed with violent video games.

    I think the people trying to blame this on video games (and there are many) are ludicrous.

    Long before video games existed, children were playing cops and robbers, or cowboys and indians. Was this priming young minds to become mass murderers? Of course not.

    In almost EVERY case of mass shooting in modern history it has been determined that the shooter was seeing a psychologist and/or had a history of mental illness.

    Why is it people immediately jump to "its the guns" or " violent video games!" "rap music"

    A rational person knows that just because something can be done in a game does make it acceptable to do outside the game.

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