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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I'm not dodging it. Not sure why you even say that. Just commenting that it is rampant in MSM regardless of party.
    Fair enough....But in this particular case, we are talking about the meme set up by GLAAD, and the LGBT community to launch an agenda, and the original narrative appears to be a lie.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Fair enough....But in this particular case, we are talking about the meme set up by GLAAD, and the LGBT community to launch an agenda, and the original narrative appears to be a lie.
    I always assume that the greater point is the issue for discussion. In this case, how trustworthy mainstream media is not whether or not this story was reported accurately.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I always assume that the greater point is the issue for discussion. In this case, how trustworthy mainstream media is not whether or not this story was reported accurately.
    Well, that is one aspect of it sure....As I said 'J' schools often further this aspect of dishonest reporting.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Link please.
    Huh ... ? It's on Shepard's Wikipedia page, the 20/20 episode was written about extensively and you can buy it on Amazon. It was also a discussion in 2009, when Virginia Foxx had declared it was all a hoax. There has long been a "truther" side to this, and it's really not that hard to find information on it.

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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You could always try talking about actual issues instead of throwing down the gauntlet by turning it into little but an exercise in partisanship. "Liberal" this, "Liberal" that. Yada yada yada. It is predictable and trite when people with an overemphasis on political orientation as identity go on their little witch hunts.
    Where were you when Obama's worshipers were/are defending his gestapo IRS and NSA targeting, attacking, harassing and spying on Tea Party/Conservative/Religious Groups?

    The Mathew Shepherd narrative was a big lie. He wasn't this homosexual saint who was a martyr for being gay. Turns out he was a criminal who was mixed up in some nasty business.

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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    It all comes down to this as expressed by the Advocate: ""There are valuable reasons for telling certain stories in a certain way at pivotal times, but that doesn’t mean we have to hold on to them once they’ve outlived their usefulness"-


    Liberals find it useful to lie, misrepresent or fabricate stories for the cause they push and see nothing wrong with it. I've know that for years and others have as well. That's why I never, ever take a liberal at his or her word on anything. Their practices go way beyond making a mistake here or there, it's done on purpose by design. I'm sure whoever wrote this story for the Advocate will receive a major dressing down by his fellow, any lie is ok conspirators. They pulled a major coup in this particular murder and won't be happy about their tactics being admitted to and shown to the world.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Huh ... ? It's on Shepard's Wikipedia page, the 20/20 episode was written about extensively and you can buy it on Amazon. It was also a discussion in 2009, when Virginia Foxx had declared it was all a hoax. There has long been a "truther" side to this, and it's really not that hard to find information on it.

    Matthew Shepard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Well, I'd like something a little more reliable that a site that any yahoo can edit....Especially since the prosecutor himself says that the situation was 'driven by drugs'....
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    It all comes down to this as expressed by the Advocate: ""There are valuable reasons for telling certain stories in a certain way at pivotal times, but that doesn’t mean we have to hold on to them once they’ve outlived their usefulness"-


    Liberals find it useful to lie, misrepresent or fabricate stories for the cause they push and see nothing wrong with it. I've know that for years and others have as well. That's why I never, ever take a liberal at his or her word on anything. Their practices go way beyond making a mistake here or there, it's done on purpose by design. I'm sure whoever wrote this story for the Advocate will receive a major dressing down by his fellow, any lie is ok conspirators. They pulled a major coup in this particular murder and won't be happy about their tactics being admitted to and shown to the world.
    I think that is absolutely right, and couldn't have said it better myself.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Fair enough....But in this particular case, we are talking about the meme set up by GLAAD, and the LGBT community to launch an agenda, and the original narrative appears to be a lie.
    You are lying again

    The "meme" wasn't "set up by GLADD and the LGBT community". It came from the killers confession.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, it would seem that a liberal journalist, Stephen Jimenez is coming out with this, and the liberal machine is not happy with him....It brings up a serious look into how progressive liberals construct 'narratives' though, and how to understand how they are rarely based in truth.

    Thoughts?
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