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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

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    Give it up dude, you are exposed on this one.....
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Weak dude....Real weak....GLAAD, and the LGBT movement latched on to this from the start, screaming from the mountain tops about how this was done by redneck, bigot, roughians, bored, and out to attack a gay guy that they were threatened by for coming on to them, that is now the false narrative exposed. And you latch on to the Advocate saving a little face by trying to assert that the bisexual, fellow drug user, and occasional lover of Shepard who was convicted of killing him, did so because he was totally gay, and McKinney liked girls too? Sangha
    Oh spare me.. The author is probably starving... and trying to make a buck.

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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Weak dude....Real weak....GLAAD, and the LGBT movement latched on to this from the start, screaming from the mountain tops about how this was done by redneck, bigot, roughians, bored, and out to attack a gay guy that they were threatened by for coming on to them, that is now the false narrative exposed. And you latch on to the Advocate saving a little face by trying to assert that the bisexual, fellow drug user, and occasional lover of Shepard who was convicted of killing him, did so because he was totally gay, and McKinney liked girls too? Sangha
    These highly strung people are really defensive about defending the myth, aren't they?

    The truth has become less important than the narrative.

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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, so attacking me personally solve the question right?
    Hardly an attack, more a playful dig and I wrote it because I did feel it could help "solve the question" of you holding the opinion that a particular tactic is more or less common based on a person's perceived political viewpoint. On that basis, I thought the fact you were kind of using the tactic yourself was relevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And the fact that a 'gay publication' the Advocate seem to agree with Jimenez, and the Prosecutor says that the murder was driven by drugs should all be ignored right?
    I didn't say anyone else should be ignored (quite the opposite it anything). My only point was that people who write this kind of book will often give a more extreme or controversial conclusion more credit that it maybe deserves because that will sell more books. The conclusion might be accurate for all I know but the fact this book was written doesn't, in itself, make it any more likely.

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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Hardly an attack, more a playful dig and I wrote it because I did feel it could help "solve the question" of you holding the opinion that a particular tactic is more or less common based on a person's perceived political viewpoint. On that basis, I thought the fact you were kind of using the tactic yourself was relevant.

    I didn't say anyone else should be ignored (quite the opposite it anything). My only point was that people who write this kind of book will often give a more extreme or controversial conclusion more credit that it maybe deserves because that will sell more books. The conclusion might be accurate for all I know but the fact this book was written doesn't, in itself, make it any more likely.
    Did you express the same skepticism when it was first reported in the news, books and movies that Mathew Shepherd was murdered only because he was Gay?

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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    These highly strung people are really defensive about defending the myth, aren't they?

    The truth has become less important than the narrative.
    Oh I know, I have one rather comically using terms like "surrender" (As if), another claiming it is all just a sensational tactic to sell books, (even though the author himself is a gay liberal and started to write the book with a different path for it in mind), and one personally attacking me, and stating that I am the one creating false narratives....

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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, I think I'll post as I see things...If you don't like it, then don't join the thread...It really is that simple...
    If you wish to post simple-minded polemics,you are certainly free to do so.

    I am just as free to comment on such, however, and this despite your telling me not to.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharona View Post
    Where is the evidence that Shepard sold meth or any drugs?
    Did you read the book?

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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    If you wish to post simple-minded polemics,you are certainly free to do so.

    I am just as free to comment on such, however, and this despite your telling me not to.

    Ooooh *raises hands* "simple minded polemics" eh? Oh you got me good on that one didn't you, oh so smart one....? I am not telling you to do, or not to do ****! It's up to you if you want to look like a typical pseudo intellectual liberal failing to follow, or comment on the discussion at hand, and instead choosing to attack me instead with your *ahem* 'simple minded polemics'.....
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    If you wish to post simple-minded polemics,you are certainly free to do so.

    I am just as free to comment on such, however, and this despite your telling me not to.
    This isn't like you, Gardener.

    J-Mac never told you not to post, he just said that if you didn't like it then you shouldn't join the thread. That seems reasonable enough.

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