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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why is it reasonable? There could be plenty of reasons that the letter is anonymous...Drugs involved being one of them...
    And we have no way to find out. Without that corroboration, we should not give it any weight, since we know nothing about it.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Are you counting the times you do it… like this?
    Oh, so attacking me personally solve the question right?

    I'd suggest reason number one - money. I doubt he's lying as such but this kind of book will often offer whatever speculative conclusion will stir up the most controvercy.
    And the fact that a 'gay publication' the Advocate seem to agree with Jimenez, and the Prosecutor says that the murder was driven by drugs should all be ignored right?
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Please read the articles provided by myself, and others in the thread....From the Advocate article....

    "By several accounts, McKinney had been on a meth bender for five days prior to the murder, and spent much of October 6 trying to find more drugs. By the evening he was so wound up that he attacked three other men in addition to Shepard. Even Cal Rerucha, the prosecutor who had pushed for the death sentence for McKinney and Henderson, would later concede on ABC’s 20/20 that “it was a murder that was driven by drugs.”
    Cal Rerucha never said that Sheperd was killed for drugs. You are being dishonest to imply that

    From the article
    Whether it was a hate crime, a drug crime, or a combination of the two, it’s hard to shake the suspicion that self-hate and a misguided culture of masculinity, which taught McKinney to abhor in himself what Shepard had learned to embrace, was as complicit as anything else in the murder of Matthew Shepard.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The prosecutor says this was a drug fueled killing.
    Because the killer was high on meth
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharona View Post
    Does that mean that Shepard was a drug dealer? Sheesh.
    It means what it says, the murder was driven by drugs, not by homophobia....Next!
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And we have no way to find out. Without that corroboration, we should not give it any weight, since we know nothing about it.
    The prosecutor disagrees with you.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It means what it says, the murder was driven by drugs, not by homophobia....Next!
    They took him, tortured him most cruelly and hung him on a fence on a cold night....

    Are you blaming the victim?

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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, so attacking me personally solve the question right?



    And the fact that a 'gay publication' the Advocate seem to agree with Jimenez, and the Prosecutor says that the murder was driven by drugs should all be ignored right?
    The Advocate doesn't agree with Jimenez. They call the murder a "hate crime"
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Cal Rerucha never said that Sheperd was killed for drugs. You are being dishonest to imply that...
    You are lying here....Again from the article...


    Cal Rerucha said on 20/20 “it was a murder that was driven by drugs.”
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It means what it says, the murder was driven by drugs, not by homophobia....Next!
    The Advocate says it was driven by homophobia and was a hate crime

    That is, of course, a kind of hate crime — just not as straightforward as the one we’ve embraced all these years.
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