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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez C...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You know this because someone said it was? Evaluate why you're so willing to believe it.

    But also address the rest of my quote. Comprehend what is being said. One person isn't the entire problem.
    The moral of this thread seems to be that Heterosexuals will seek out the truth, Gays will seek out the truth, but liberals will continue their beliefs no matter what facts are presented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The moral of this thread seems to be that Heterosexuals will seek out the truth, Gays will seek out the truth, but liberals will continue their beliefs no matter what facts are presented.
    Then you're not listen nor seeking the truth. Few have said there is no reason to question, but have merely pointed out howe quickly you're willing to believe.


    I've also pointed out how meaningless it is either way. He was still beat to death, and gays still face violence for no other reason than being gay.

    So, put on your big girl panties and try not to be so sensitive. You're likely OK even if the original story stays true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I've also pointed out how meaningless it is either way. He was still beat to death, and gays still face violence for no other reason than being gay.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez C...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Odd you pick something that was accurate. The form wasn't real, but even the secretary said it did accurately reflect the situation. Still, I would have ask for more there as well. What are you asking for here?

    However focus on this point:

    The point here is that if it were proven to be not as portrayed, the real problem of violence against gays would still exist. Do you really argue otherwise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Odd you pick something that was accurate. The form wasn't real, but even the secretary said it did accurately reflect the situation.
    You and Dan Rather are just about the only people left on Earth clinging to that.

    What are you asking for here?
    Who says I'm "asking" for anything. I'm just pointing out that you're doing what you have to in order to cling to something which turned out to be bogus, just as Dan Rather did.

    However focus on this point:

    The point here is that if it were proven to be not as portrayed, the real problem of violence against gays would still exist. Do you really argue otherwise?
    That ISN'T the point; that's merely the point you'd prefer to focus on, and I am not required to indulge it.

    The actual point is that a heinous crime was purported to be something it wasn't in order to push a political agenda during a Presidential campaign, as a smear on one of the candidates. I would say that itself is pretty hateful toward the victim, what with using his brutal murder as an inaccurate political football.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez C...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You and Dan Rather are just about the only people left on Earth clinging to that.



    Who says I'm "asking" for anything. I'm just pointing out that you're doing what you have to in order to cling to something which turned out to be bogus, just as Dan Rather did.



    That ISN'T the point; that's merely the point you'd prefer to focus on, and I am not required to indulge it.

    The actual point is that a heinous crime was purported to be something it wasn't in order to push a political agenda during a Presidential campaign, as a smear on one of the candidates. I would say that itself is pretty hateful toward the victim, what with using his brutal murder as an inaccurate political football.
    You don't know that it wasn't. You're just overly willing to accept this. Nothing more.

    And no, no one of significant changes Rather's point. The NYT's made the same case without the document. This doesn't mean Rather wasn't wrong for his actions. But, don't pretend they mean something they don't. And don't do the same thing here, pretending that anything has been proven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You don't know that it wasn't. You're just overly willing to accept this. Nothing more.


    I'm speaking within the context of your assertion that it doesn't matter.

    You want to believe it doesn't, but it does, no matter what you'd like to shift "the point" to being.

    And no, no one of significant changes Rather's point. The NYT's made the same case without the document. This doesn't mean Rather wasn't wrong for his actions. But, don't pretend they mean something they don't. And don't do the same thing here, pretending that anything has been proven.
    It's up to the accuser to do the proving. Hint: trying to so with forged documents does not accomplish this, and that's the most charitable thing which could be said about it.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez C...

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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez C...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You know this because someone said it was? Evaluate why you're so willing to believe it.
    Ok, so you still believe that a couple of redneck homophobes beat him to death....I'll give you this, once you buy into the liberal meme, you really go all in.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez C...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post


    I'm speaking within the context of your assertion that it doesn't matter.

    You want to believe it doesn't, but it does, no matter what you'd like to shift "the point" to being.



    It's up to the accuser to do the proving. Hint: trying to so with forged documents does not accomplish this, and that's the most charitable thing which could be said about it.
    In the larger view, no it doesn't matter. Homosexuals don't face violence because of what happened to one young man. And they still face even if the wasn't quite correct. So, not, to that issue it doesn't really matter.

    Yes, no one said Rather was right to do what he did, either or purpose or accident. The point s there WAS other evidence. Nit only from Rather, but others.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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