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    Yeah but not in this case just a love quarrel gone bad.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Hate crimes do happen, and this was just one of them. Why it got the attention it did probably had to do with the brutality of it as well as the victim's age. Unless people are killed for being hetero at anywhere near the same rate, i don't know why anyone is coming here thrilled with the *claim* that Matthew Shepherd was killed for a reason other than his sexuality. Homophobia did not simply vanish after this murder either. 15 years later Wyoming is still by and large a ghetto bigot haven, so you can drop the gloating and right wing persecution complex.

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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

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    Hate crimes do happen, and this was just one of them. Why it got the attention it did probably had to do with the brutality of it as well as the victim's age. Unless people are killed for being hetero at anywhere near the same rate, i don't know why anyone is coming here thrilled with the *claim* that Matthew Shepherd was killed for a reason other than his sexuality. Homophobia did not simply vanish after this murder either. 15 years later Wyoming is still by and large a ghetto bigot haven, so you can drop the gloating and right wing persecution complex.
    Except if the research for the book is correct, he wasnt killed by a right wing bigot, he was killed by his part time homosexual booty call. Oh...and all the outrage, parades, calls for legislation...you think that would have went over had the headlines been about two meth users, both gay, and one killed the other either in a drug fueled rage or as postulated, over drug sales turf wars? Nah...probably not.

    So what if it was all a lie....

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    I find it really disgusting that the conservative media are attempting to re-frame this story with their spindoctoring, so many years after the facts were already established.

    There's always going to be someone who "comes forward" to tell another side of the story, a.k.a make some money off 15 seconds of fame. People have been doing it for years about Princess Di's death too. Every bitch has his price.

    The social conservative, right-wing media have a bad habit of trying to identify who or what they perceive are the major icons or figures of a movement (in this case, the gay rights movement), and then try to horrifically and inaccurately debunk them. Because, you know, it's really important to people that the causes behind gay rights activism get debunked, in order to reveal those silly homos as being the paranoid pink ribbon movement that they are.

    Their endless polemic beefs with political figures and the scapegoating that accompanies it are just trite, mundane, and frankly tiring. Our country does not need this kind of divisive propaganda right now.

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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    I find it really disgusting that the conservative media are attempting to re-frame this story with their spindoctoring, so many years after the facts were already established.

    There's always going to be someone who "comes forward" to tell another side of the story, a.k.a make some money off 15 seconds of fame. People have been doing it for years about Princess Di's death too. Every bitch has his price.

    The social conservative, right-wing media have a bad habit of trying to identify who or what they perceive are the major icons or figures of a movement (in this case, the gay rights movement), and then try to horrifically and inaccurately debunk them. Because, you know, it's really important to people that the causes behind gay rights activism get debunked, in order to reveal those silly homos as being the paranoid pink ribbon movement that they are.

    Their endless polemic beefs with political figures and the scapegoating that accompanies it are just trite, mundane, and frankly tiring. Our country does not need this kind of divisive propaganda right now.
    LOL. The Advocate is conservative media? LOL.

    The spin from liberals never ends. LOL.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Hate crimes do happen, and this was just one of them. Why it got the attention it did probably had to do with the brutality of it as well as the victim's age. Unless people are killed for being hetero at anywhere near the same rate, i don't know why anyone is coming here thrilled with the *claim* that Matthew Shepherd was killed for a reason other than his sexuality. Homophobia did not simply vanish after this murder either. 15 years later Wyoming is still by and large a ghetto bigot haven, so you can drop the gloating and right wing persecution complex.
    In this case it would appear to be a left wing Gay bigot who was responsible for the murder.

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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Their endless polemic beefs with political figures and the scapegoating that accompanies it are just trite, mundane, and frankly tiring. Our country does not need this kind of divisive propaganda right now.
    But the country needed that kind of divisive propaganda then?

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    He's still dead, and others have still been killed by homophobic killers. Not sure why the need for it not to be true, but the what if doesn't really change anything of consequence.
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    I find it really disgusting that the conservative media are attempting to re-frame this story with their spindoctoring, so many years after the facts were already established.

    There's always going to be someone who "comes forward" to tell another side of the story, a.k.a make some money off 15 seconds of fame. People have been doing it for years about Princess Di's death too. Every bitch has his price.

    The social conservative, right-wing media have a bad habit of trying to identify who or what they perceive are the major icons or figures of a movement (in this case, the gay rights movement), and then try to horrifically and inaccurately debunk them. Because, you know, it's really important to people that the causes behind gay rights activism get debunked, in order to reveal those silly homos as being the paranoid pink ribbon movement that they are.

    Their endless polemic beefs with political figures and the scapegoating that accompanies it are just trite, mundane, and frankly tiring. Our country does not need this kind of divisive propaganda right now.
    Do you not see how totally 'on its head' this rant from you is? You are actually in the position of defending a lie, by calling those taking a look at the truth of the matter 'liars'..... What kind of twisted logic is this that progressives use...It truly is "Blotto World"
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    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez C...

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    : Are you serious? It's built on a lie. But go on thinking that the ends always justify the means, I am sure that will serve you well Joe.
    You know this because someone said it was? Evaluate why you're so willing to believe it.

    But also address the rest of my quote. Comprehend what is being said. One person isn't the entire problem.

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