Page 20 of 29 FirstFirst ... 101819202122 ... LastLast
Results 191 to 200 of 288

Thread: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claims In

  1. #191
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Last Seen
    08-29-17 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    16,575

    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then it should be easy for you to provide examples.
    Sure thing. War on Christians and War on Christmas come to mind.

  2. #192
    Mod Conspiracy Theorist
    rocket88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    A very blue state
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:40 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,157

    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then it should be easy for you to provide examples.
    Iraq. Took a couple of basic facts and twisted them into a justification for war and what our military should do.

    Brady Bill

    Partial Birth Abortion bans

    Flag burning Amendment....


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

  3. #193
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,274

    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Sure thing. War on Christians and War on Christmas come to mind.
    What laws in relation to those narratives are being enforced on the Federal level?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  4. #194
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,274

    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Iraq. Took a couple of basic facts and twisted them into a justification for war and what our military should do.
    What were the basic facts you think were 'twisted'?

    Brady Bill
    Brady was a narrative from the left that was used to strengthen banning guns.

    Partial Birth Abortion bans
    Partial Birth abortion is deplorable, you think otherwise?

    Flag burning Amendment....
    did a new amendment pass? That would be news to me....However, all of these are narratives from the left side distorted out of popular approval/disapproval in order to combat the public wishes. For example, you used Partial Birth Abortion, as a false narrative of the right, but I am sure that you personally don't think that it should be legal, so why would the narrative be false?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  5. #195
    Mod Conspiracy Theorist
    rocket88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    A very blue state
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:40 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,157

    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What were the basic facts you think were 'twisted'?
    The idea that it was connected to the War on Terror.



    Brady was a narrative from the left that was used to strengthen banning guns.
    Signed by President Reagan and named after one of his aides who pushed hard for it.



    Partial Birth abortion is deplorable, you think otherwise?
    No, but I think it's a red herring to distract people from the real issue. It's a feel good issue for both sides. Repubs get to burnish their pro-life cred by trying it and Dems get to play to the pro-choice crowd by trying to stop them. The real issue is abortion, not the method used.



    did a new amendment pass? That would be news to me....
    They tried. Just because they didn't succeed doesn't mean they weren't trying to turn public policy.

    However, all of these are narratives from the left side distorted out of popular approval/disapproval in order to combat the public wishes.
    Yes, of course. Everything bad happens because of the left in your world.

    For example, you used Partial Birth Abortion, as a false narrative of the right, but I am sure that you personally don't think that it should be legal, so why would the narrative be false?
    As I said above, that's a fake issue to begin with.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

  6. #196
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ah, so a self admitted 'liberal, progressive, gay man' himself, constructed this elaborate lie that goes at the narrative canonizing Saint Matthew, and he did it all for attention? Are you serious?
    Yeah, it happens. Again, you should never accept anything at face value, even if you like it.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

  7. #197
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Didn't say that you have to accept anything, and you probably won't...But any rational person can see that the meme of Saint Matthew was a lie, and how it was constructed is a useful bit of information to look at other progressive lies, and myths.
    A young man was beat to death, and your largest concern is what you consider a meme? You're even disrespectful of this poor young man?

    Look, I'm all for the truth, even if it it goes against me. But let's have some standards for accepting stories and let's not be disrespectful of dead folks. I've said that even for conservatives I've seriously disagreed with.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

  8. #198
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,274

    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The idea that it was connected to the War on Terror.
    The whole damned region is connected one way or another to the war on terror! Are you kidding me?

    Signed by President Reagan and named after one of his aides who pushed hard for it.
    Nope, just wrong....

    "It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 30, 1993, and went into effect on February 28, 1994. The Act was named after James Brady, who was shot by John Hinckley, Jr. during an attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan on March 30, 1981."

    Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    No, but I think it's a red herring to distract people from the real issue. It's a feel good issue for both sides. Repubs get to burnish their pro-life cred by trying it and Dems get to play to the pro-choice crowd by trying to stop them. The real issue is abortion, not the method used.
    The methods are largely the same, it is the just the age of the child we are talking about in that. I personally don't think killing any child is a good thing.

    They tried. Just because they didn't succeed doesn't mean they weren't trying to turn public policy.
    So point out what was false about the narrative?

    Yes, of course. Everything bad happens because of the left in your world.
    I wouldn't say everything, but more than need be yes.

    As I said above, that's a fake issue to begin with.
    And you are mistaken on that.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  9. #199
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,274

    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    A young man was beat to death, and your largest concern is what you consider a meme? You're even disrespectful of this poor young man?
    No, I am not, this is a 15 year old crime, and I think it is deplorable that anyone die like that, and the persons responsible deserve the death penalty for what they did. But it wasn't a "hate crime"... We are discussing the narrative here, and how it was created on a lie. If that is too much for you, to discuss the agenda born out of this horrible crime, then all I can say is too bad.

    Look, I'm all for the truth, even if it it goes against me.
    Not from what I see.

    But let's have some standards for accepting stories and let's not be disrespectful of dead folks.
    No one is disrespecting anyone....This is just you trying to shut down discussion that challenges your accepted theory. And I would say a more disrespectful way to treat the memory of Shepard than continuing the lie.

    I've said that even for conservatives I've seriously disagreed with.
    Oh spare us....laughable.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  10. #200
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Matthew Shepard Murdered By Bisexual Lover And Drug Dealer, Stephen Jimenez Claim

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The whole damned region is connected one way or another to the war on terror! Are you kidding me?



    Nope, just wrong....

    "It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 30, 1993, and went into effect on February 28, 1994. The Act was named after James Brady, who was shot by John Hinckley, Jr. during an attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan on March 30, 1981."

    Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    The methods are largely the same, it is the just the age of the child we are talking about in that. I personally don't think killing any child is a good thing.



    So point out what was false about the narrative?



    I wouldn't say everything, but more than need be yes.



    And you are mistaken on that.
    There can be no remaining doubt that leftists tend to be 'uninformed'. (A desperate attempt to be polite!)

Page 20 of 29 FirstFirst ... 101819202122 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •