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    Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Showdow

    Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Showdown - Business Insider
    Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Showdown
    The court papers don’t tell us all that much about what happened between the couple described only as “J.B.” and “H.B.” We can assume there once was love and then, at some point, there wasn’t.


    Their parting, we’re told, was amicable.

    The problem is that J.B. and H.B. are both men. The other problem is that they live in Texas. The two were married in Massachusetts in 2006, where same-sex marriage has been legal since 2004. They later moved to Texas, and now want to get divorced. Texas, however, won’t let them. And they cannot get divorced in Massachusetts either, because that state—like all states—has a residency requirement for divorce.

    Thus, unless they uproot their current lives in Texas and move to a state that will grant same-sex divorces, J.B. and H.B. are locked into their marriage. They are in perfect legal limbo. And they are in it together until death—or the state of Texas—do them part. Being trapped in a marriage one wishes to leave is a situation one court (referring to an opposite-sex marriage) once described as “cruel and unusual punishment”—placing the spouses “in a prison from which there was no parole.”


    back up links:
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._same_sex.html
    http://www.policymic.com/articles/63...for-gay-rights


    and BOOM!
    there you have it.
    Stuff like this is the beginning to the end of discrimination and denying equal rights.

    Me and many others called it when DOMA fell and then again when IRS granted equal rights no matter the state couples reside.

    National equal rights for gays is coming and many cases (hopefully just a few SSCs and one SCOTUS) like these are going to make it happen. These types or gross discrimination and equality violations along with state bannings are going to HELP establish equal rights for gays.

    In my opinion there's nothing right about what Texas is doing to these people and legally other similar cases have ruled its wrong also.

    Like i was saying, when DOMA fell me and others said thats the first step because cases like these and 1000s of others are going to establish equal rights.

    If a gay married couple lives in taxes and one of them is in the hospital does the other not get spousal visitation rights or spousal say in healthcare?
    Can one of them cheat and its ok?
    What if one dies, does texas take the stuff in the dead spouses name?
    Can one spouse be FORCED to testify against the other since texas doesnt see their marriage?
    etc etc etc etc and a 100 more examples that involve state, and local policies.

    There will be cases like these springing up more and more and they will have to be dealt with. Its great because its going to be poetic justice, all these discrimination and laws banning equal rights for gays are going to be the kindling for the fire to burn the whole bigoted and or discrimination wall down.

    Equal rights is going to get the last laugh!

    Bigotry and discrimination are already against the ropes, their wobbled, their stunned!

    Soon they will catch a left jab of equal rights and a right hook of justice, knocking their teeth out and sending them to the canvas down for the count!!!!
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Showdown - Business Insider

    back up links:
    Texas and gay marriage: Will Texas’ refusal to grant divorces to same-sex couples be the next front in the marriage-equality wars? - Slate Magazine
    Inside The Next Big Battle For Gay Rights


    and BOOM!
    there you have it.
    Stuff like this is the beginning to the end of discrimination and denying equal rights.

    Me and many others called it when DOMA fell and then again when IRS granted equal rights no matter the state couples reside.

    National equal rights for gays is coming and many cases (hopefully just a few SSCs and one SCOTUS) like these are going to make it happen. These types or gross discrimination and equality violations along with state bannings are going to HELP establish equal rights for gays.

    In my opinion there's nothing right about what Texas is doing to these people and legally other similar cases have ruled its wrong also.

    Like i was saying, when DOMA fell me and others said thats the first step because cases like these and 1000s of others are going to establish equal rights.

    If a gay married couple lives in taxes and one of them is in the hospital does the other not get spousal visitation rights or spousal say in healthcare?
    Can one of them cheat and its ok?
    What if one dies, does texas take the stuff in the dead spouses name?
    Can one spouse be FORCED to testify against the other since texas doesnt see their marriage?
    etc etc etc etc and a 100 more examples that involve state, and local policies.

    There will be cases like these springing up more and more and they will have to be dealt with. Its great because its going to be poetic justice, all these discrimination and laws banning equal rights for gays are going to be the kindling for the fire to burn the whole bigoted and or discrimination wall down.

    Equal rights is going to get the last laugh!

    Bigotry and discrimination are already against the ropes, their wobbled, their stunned!

    Soon they will catch a left jab of equal rights and a right hook of justice, knocking their teeth out and sending them to the canvas down for the count!!!!
    I think this is one of what what will be many whimpers coming out of the traditional marriage crowd as their movement dies.
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    I think this is one of what what will be many whimpers coming out of the traditional marriage crowd as their movement dies.
    im sure there will be lots of crying by the extremists but its pointless the writing is on the wall and equal rights is going to win.

    as far as their movement, it will probably never die and im fine with that, this has nothing to do with peoples feeling anyway, its about equal rights and fighting against that will be a lost cause.

    I say that because racist, bigoted, and misogynistic movements still exists today sadly.
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    im sure there will be lots of crying by the extremists but its pointless the writing is on the wall and equal rights is going to win.

    as far as their movement, it will probably never die and im fine with that, this has nothing to do with peoples feeling anyway, its about equal rights and fighting against that will be a lost cause.

    I say that because racist, bigoted, and misogynistic movements still exists today sadly.
    That's true, but I think their movement will definitely be out of the mainstream, and no longer accepted as legitimate in just a few years.
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Texas loves gay marriage so much that they do want gay couples to separate.

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Their conundrum, is a legal one, on two fronts.

    This smells agenda driven.

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    That's true, but I think their movement will definitely be out of the mainstream, and no longer accepted as legitimate in just a few years.
    hmm i dont think its ever been accepted as "legitimate" for quite some times, people accepted that the powers to be werent ready to give in and the road to equality didnt have a foundation yet.

    I know right now to anybody honest, educated and objective the "traditional" argument completely fails because its made up.
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Texas doesn't want to recognize their divorce because to do so would be a recognition of their SSM

    So instead, they're forcing a same sex couple to stay married

    WAY TO GO, TEXAS!! You're doing a fine job of eliminating SSM's
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    Maybe they should sue Massachusetts instead of complaining to the state that doesn't recognize their marriage.
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Texas doesn't want to recognize their divorce because to do so would be a recognition of their SSM

    So instead, they're forcing a same sex couple to stay married

    WAY TO GO, TEXAS!! You're doing a fine job of eliminating SSM's

    that's not really accurate.. as Texas law doesn't consider them to be married in the first place.

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