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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    but yet the fact remains they are legally married
    No, they never were. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Nothing else is a marriage.

    And Texas does not recognize the sick mockery of a marriage in which they claim to be, so their “marriage” has no status there. They are free to go their separate ways, without needing the state's permission to do so.

    That one state chose to go along with their sick mockery does not obligate another state to play along with it as well.
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    how to say it more clear would be to say it in a accurate way

    their marriage IS factual valid IN Texas but Texas doesnt recognize it

    do other states still consider them married while in texas? yes
    can the file taxes as a married couple while IN taxes? yes
    what other states recognize is irrelevant to Texas law... and there are no state income taxes in Texas to file... if there were, they couldn't file as married.

    you are correct in saying Texas does not recognize their marriage.. in Texas, they are just 2 dudes

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Showdown - Business Insider

    back up links:
    Texas and gay marriage: Will Texas’ refusal to grant divorces to same-sex couples be the next front in the marriage-equality wars? - Slate Magazine
    Inside The Next Big Battle For Gay Rights


    and BOOM!
    there you have it.
    Stuff like this is the beginning to the end of discrimination and denying equal rights.

    Me and many others called it when DOMA fell and then again when IRS granted equal rights no matter the state couples reside.

    National equal rights for gays is coming and many cases (hopefully just a few SSCs and one SCOTUS) like these are going to make it happen. These types or gross discrimination and equality violations along with state bannings are going to HELP establish equal rights for gays.

    In my opinion there's nothing right about what Texas is doing to these people and legally other similar cases have ruled its wrong also.

    Like i was saying, when DOMA fell me and others said thats the first step because cases like these and 1000s of others are going to establish equal rights.

    If a gay married couple lives in taxes and one of them is in the hospital does the other not get spousal visitation rights or spousal say in healthcare?
    Can one of them cheat and its ok?
    What if one dies, does texas take the stuff in the dead spouses name?
    Can one spouse be FORCED to testify against the other since texas doesnt see their marriage?
    etc etc etc etc and a 100 more examples that involve state, and local policies.

    There will be cases like these springing up more and more and they will have to be dealt with. Its great because its going to be poetic justice, all these discrimination and laws banning equal rights for gays are going to be the kindling for the fire to burn the whole bigoted and or discrimination wall down.

    Equal rights is going to get the last laugh!

    Bigotry and discrimination are already against the ropes, their wobbled, their stunned!

    Soon they will catch a left jab of equal rights and a right hook of justice, knocking their teeth out and sending them to the canvas down for the count!!!!

    Awesome. I've been waiting for a case like this! Cases like this will show that it's ridiculous to not have marriage equality in all states... yea!

    Although I do feel sorry for the couple involved; what a limbo to be in!

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    A Guy I've known all my life is the children's minister there

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    thats cool

    i remember when the national cathedral allowed gays to marry there and that was cool but im not educated on to where all the churches that allow gays are.

    The one friend i was specifically talking about has faith but mass religion overall has turned her off.

    She knew basically her whole life and verbally told her parents that she KNOWS she likes girls at 12 yrs old. they sorta ignored it and just moved on.
    She had an uncle (her dads brother and a priest) who started touching her when he caught her making out with a girl, she was 14. And that was the end of everything. She told on him and that when her dad disowned her and said she made up the story and she was shunned from her church and lost half her family. Her dad even divorced her mom over it.

    So said people could be this sick, she is such a sweetheart of a person and a genuine sole too.
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    No, they never were. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Nothing else is a marriage.
    many states and feds disagree


    And Texas does not recognize the sick mockery of a marriage in which they claim to be, so their “marriage” has no status there.
    This thread is about gay marriage not Anna Nicole Smith!

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    thats cool

    i remember when the national cathedral allowed gays to marry there and that was cool but im not educated on to where all the churches that allow gays are.

    The one friend i was specifically talking about has faith but mass religion overall has turned her off.

    She knew basically her whole life and verbally told her parents that she KNOWS she likes girls at 12 yrs old. they sorta ignored it and just moved on.
    She had an uncle (her dads brother and a priest) who started touching her when he caught her making out with a girl, she was 14. And that was the end of everything. She told on him and that when her dad disowned her and said she made up the story and she was shunned from her church and lost half her family. Her dad even divorced her mom over it.

    So said people could be this sick, she is such a sweetheart of a person and a genuine sole too.
    What a shame

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    1.)No, they never were. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Nothing else is a marriage.

    2.)And Texas does not recognize the sick mockery of a marriage in which they claim to be, so their “marriage” has no status there.
    3.)They are free to go their separate ways, without needing the state's permission to do so.
    4.) That one state chose to go along with their sick mockery does not obligate another state to play along with it as well.
    1.) fact prove you wrong as usual bob, sorry, posting lies about this fact wont change them
    2.) yes i stated the fact texas does not recognize their legal and factual marriage, this is a fact. the rest of the bigoted ranting you posted is meaningless.
    3.) they can go separate ways with or without anybody's permission but they are still factually married.
    4.) again this bigoted opinion is meaningless

    Facts destroy you r failed post once again. Let us know when you have any facts that support the lie that they are not factually married. We'd love to read it.
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    the church just down the road from me just had a big float in the Pride parade in Austin..... they tried to give me a bunch of t-shirts for doing the welding on the frame.

    I haven't seen any protests against same sex marriage ....or any vocal opposition , for that matter... not in public anyways.
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    and thats good you havent seen it yourself but are you gay? just saying
    i havent seen it myself so i cant tell you in what form it takes place, i know she has been fired, had friends fired, lost neighbors has friends, a friends business was shut down and protests where gays hang out have happened including vandalizing property both public and private..

    now of course this happens in lots of places im not trying to single out Texas in general, she is just always surprised by the huge black and white issue it is for some people and says she is very careful around people she doesn't know if it could impact her or her safety.

    She lives outside of houston near the 610 and yes i know thats a circular belt way but thats why im willing to give out the info
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    1.)what other states recognize is irrelevant to Texas law...
    2.) and there are no state income taxes in Texas to file... if there were, they couldn't file as married.
    3.) you are correct in saying Texas does not recognize their marriage..
    4.) in Texas, they are just 2 dudes
    1.) yes i agree with this
    2.) sorry if i was unclear i meant FEDERAL taxes
    3.) yep we agree
    4.) that are legally married and texas just doesnt recognize it
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What a shame
    yeah, i dont know how she isnt more bitter and angry, she is very much like myself, almost never see her have a angry day or not smiling. Sad in her personal space, yes a lot but out in the world happy as can be.
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