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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Texas has no state tax, therefore they are filing federal taxes. Texas doesn't have to recognize marriage for the purpose of federal taxes.
    Hello bright eyes. You are missing the point. The federal government recognizes the marriage. Should they want to get a divorce they should be able to.

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

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    WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?!?!?!?!?!?

    you mean all "teaxns" arent the same?

    so funny reading that BS when people say it
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Simply, no divorce is possible for them in Texas as the they are not married in the eyes of Texas law. In fact, they are each free to marry women in Texas without a bigamy charge.

    Wouldn't that be a fun SCOTUS case. One of them marries a woman in Texas and Mass charges him with bigamy. But in reality the cowardly court wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot pole.
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Well we all ride horses! And love bow legged women!
    wait, you ride horses and love bow legged women?

    ****, i love horse and love bow legged women?

    i must be a texan?!?!?!?!

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    and just a supplement to the op

    this looks like it has the potential to be a two birds with one stone issue

    not only will this very likely end the bigoted and discrimination laws in taxes over legal amrriage but it has the potential to equally regulate marriage nationally letting people marry and divorce anywhere in the US.

    also just some other info

    Texas law requires that one of the divorcing parties must have resided in Texas for at least the previous 6 months.

    There are 7 grounds for divorce in Texas, and to be able to file for divorce, one of these situations must be true in your case
    -Insupportability: there are disagreements that can't be resolved.
    -Cruelty: one spouse is treating the other cruelly, to the point where the situation has become unbearable.
    -Adultery: your spouse has cheated on you.
    -Conviction of a felony: your spouse has been convicted of a felony during your marriage and imprisoned for at least one year without pardon. (You can't use this ground if your testimony is what was used in court to convict your spouse).
    -Abandonment: your spouse left with no intention of coming back, and has been gone for at least one year.
    -Living apart: you and your spouse haven't lived together for at least three years.
    -Confinement in mental hospital: your spouse has been confined in a mental hospital (state or private) for at least three years and there's no indication this will change.


    and in Massachusetts

    At least one spouse must be a resident of Massachusetts for one year before filing for divorce.

    grounds:
    Adultery
    Impotency
    Desertion for one year prior to the filing of the complaint.
    Alcohol or drug addiction.
    Cruel and abusive treatment.
    Willful neglect and refusing to provide suitable support and maintenance for the other spouse.
    Irretrievable breakdown of the marriage.
    Confinement for five years or more in a federal penal institution or in a penal or reformatory institution in this or any other state.


    so it seems it would require one of them to move to Mass for a YEAR. SO while still possible id say thats a good reason not to think this is agenda driven.
    I did note that neither state allows divorce for the purpose of pushing a gay rights agenda, which you said you'd be ok with. Funny how some will approve of just about anything if it fits their agenda. No need to respond, just a pointless observation.

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    1.)I did note that neither state allows divorce for the purpose of pushing a gay rights agenda, which you said you'd be ok with. Funny how some will approve of just about anything if it fits their agenda.

    2.) No need to respond, just a pointless observation.
    1.) huh? i dont even know what you are saying
    BOTH states allow divorce
    ONLY texas is currently not allowing it for gays
    Mass does in fact allow it

    get back to me when you know what you are talking about

    lastly what is the gay rights agenda?

    im pushing for equal rights, period

    but YES if these people were trying to fight for their equal rights i would support that 100%. just like i support rosa parks and countless other men, women, races, religious people and genders fighting for their equal rights. Weird you think that is wrong.

    2.) yes i agree it was a pointless observation, very pointless, at least you even know how dumb of an observation it was.
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    I did note that neither state allows divorce for the purpose of pushing a gay rights agenda, which you said you'd be ok with. Funny how some will approve of just about anything if it fits their agenda. No need to respond, just a pointless observation.
    And your agenda is what?

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    By recognizing benefits and joint tax filing the Feds have recognized gay marriage legally. Why should they be beholden to states that so do not do not recognize gay divorce?
    If you read the tax law you'll find that acceptance of marital status by Fed is based on each individuals state recognition. They say we were married in Mass. feds say ok.

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    maybe try reading the OP again the all the links and this thread and it will fix the unbelievable lack of logic in your post.
    Yea I've read this and I hold to my point.

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    If you read the tax law you'll find that acceptance of marital status by Fed is based on each individuals state recognition. They say we were married in Mass. feds say ok.
    And since they can not get a divorce they are still stuck in that situation. And in the case of SS there is the 10 year rule.

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