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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Actually, that marriage still holds IN Ma. Texas sees it differently.
    And that is half my point. The other half is the Feds still recognize the marriage as far as SS benefits the ten year thing and tax thing. If Texas does not grant a divorce these things are still going to be there

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

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    And that is half my point. The other half is the Feds still recognize the marriage as far as SS benefits the ten year thing and tax thing. If Texas does not grant a divorce these things are still going to be there
    The feds have decided to pay benefits. Not recognize the marriage. The point of this thread is Texas is not willing to grant a divorce pertaining to a mariage that Texas law does not recognize.

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    The feds have decided to pay benefits. Not recognize the marriage. The point of this thread is Texas is not willing to grant a divorce pertaining to a mariage that Texas law does not recognize.
    By recognizing benefits and joint tax filing the Feds have recognized gay marriage legally. Why should they be beholden to states that so do not do not recognize gay divorce?

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Texas doesn't want to recognize their divorce because to do so would be a recognition of their SSM

    So instead, they're forcing a same sex couple to stay married

    WAY TO GO, TEXAS!! You're doing a fine job of eliminating SSM's
    Unbelievable lack of logic, Did this couple know when the moved to Texas what the same sex laws were (I'm gonna say yes, because this sounds like a set up)? So their decision to move to Texas and their decision to request divorce is because Texas discriminates? Texas is passive in this case, not discriminatory. The couple is not locked they will just have to go back to the state that sanctioned their marriage and request there. That state was active in this case.

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    The feds have decided to pay benefits. Not recognize the marriage. The point of this thread is Texas is not willing to grant a divorce pertaining to a marriage that Texas law does not recognize.
    that is recognizing the marriage.
    it doesnt make it a national law yet but that is recognizing the marriage. If the marriage want recognized no benefits would be granted.
    All Legal Same-Sex Marriages Will Be Recognized for Federal Tax Purposes

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    Ruling Provides Certainty, Benefits and Protections Under Federal Tax Law for Same-Sex Married Couples

    The U.S. Department of the Treasury and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) today ruled that same-sex couples, legally married in jurisdictions that recognize their marriages, will be treated as married for federal tax purposes. The ruling applies regardless of whether the couple lives in a jurisdiction that recognizes same-sex marriage or a jurisdiction that does not recognize same-sex marriage.
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Unbelievable lack of logic, Did this couple know when the moved to Texas what the same sex laws were (I'm gonna say yes, because this sounds like a set up)? So their decision to move to Texas and their decision to request divorce is because Texas discriminates? Texas is passive in this case, not discriminatory. The couple is not locked they will just have to go back to the state that sanctioned their marriage and request there. That state was active in this case.
    maybe try reading the OP again the all the links and this thread and it will fix the unbelievable lack of logic in your post.
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    that is recognizing the marriage.
    it doesnt make it a national law yet but that is recognizing the marriage. If the marriage want recognized no benefits would be granted.
    All Legal Same-Sex Marriages Will Be Recognized for Federal Tax Purposes
    Your posted article makes my point. "for federal tax purposes". Then you go further and state that this not a national law. At least we agree on those points.

    Fact is that this is not about benefits. It is about divorce. I doubt that the feds are all that interested in getting involved in marriage or divorce unless they can make it about discrimination. Marriage and divorce are states rights as of now.

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Unbelievable lack of logic, Did this couple know when the moved to Texas what the same sex laws were (I'm gonna say yes, because this sounds like a set up)? So their decision to move to Texas and their decision to request divorce is because Texas discriminates? Texas is passive in this case, not discriminatory. The couple is not locked they will just have to go back to the state that sanctioned their marriage and request there. That state was active in this case.
    My State politicians are arrogant 'tards that have no to little respect for law abiding citizens out side their dwindling group of myopic views.

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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    1.)Your posted article makes my point. "for federal tax purposes". Then you go further and state that this not a national law. At least we agree on those points.

    2.)Fact is that this is not about benefits. It is about divorce. I doubt that the feds are all that interested in getting involved in marriage or divorce unless they can make it about discrimination.
    3.) Marriage and divorce are states rights as of now.
    1.) no it doesnt, they recognize it no matter the reason. pretty simple. If you are trying to say its not a national right yet, that is correct. but the fact remains the fed recognizes it.
    2.) and thats what happens everytime its pushed, it becomes a equal rights, law and discrimination issue. also divorce is about benefits.
    3.) yes currently but not for long nor should it be. At lease the foundation of it anyway.
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    Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Your posted article makes my point. "for federal tax purposes". Then you go further and state that this not a national law. At least we agree on those points.

    Fact is that this is not about benefits. It is about divorce. I doubt that the feds are all that interested in getting involved in marriage or divorce unless they can make it about discrimination. Marriage and divorce are states rights as of now.

    Really?

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