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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

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    I'm going to close my eyes and put this computer down before I fall asleep and it hits the floor... again.

    I want to continue this after I get some shut eye.

    But, before I go, I just want to say how I'm enjoying discussing this with someone who obviously knows the facts, and has a pragmatic, and not an ideologically emotional, view of this complex subject. So thank you.

    I'm impressed. And that doesn't happen very often lately.

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

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    Allawites are considered by some Muslims to be heretics. It's partially why Syria had very good minority rights laws. They themselves were a major target otherwise. It's a shame how a relatively secular nation with strong minority rights ended up in this crapstorm.
    Obama wants Assad gone because he's hellbent on having Al-Qaeda in power in Syria. The Obama admin has been training Al-Qaeda, arming Al-Qaeda, and funneling money and information to Al-Qaeda.

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    They were installed in Egypt, then Libya and he's trying to get them in power in Syria.
    According to RT even we were training rebels to fight. All for nothing!
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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    I wonder how much more pressure against the wall will Obama take before he either gives down or blows up in an attack against Syria! You see Assad (now, next after Putin) has pinned Obama in the corner so bad now that really is no way out.

    Assad is asking something that cannot possible be done, and that is: Israel handing over their non existent nuclear weapons. Telling Assad that there are none is begging for an attack on Israel. On the other point there are none and how would they remove something that there is not to begin with?

    But yeah, I suppose they can invent some missiles there so as to appear as if they are retreating nukes from Israel too...
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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Want to tell me how intervening in Syria now is more expensive than dealing with a Middle Eastern nuclear arms race?

    Please, I'd love to see that argument.


    Doing nothing tells Iran they have nothing to fear. That tells our allies we will let Iran have the bomb and we're wishy washy on defending them. Then countries like Saudi Arabia restart their programs. This isn't good for anyone.
    Well, I don't agree with you that not attacking president Assad equates to sending a negative message to Iran or anyone else. US foreign policy goals for Syria is what has hurt the situation from the beginning. President Putin has the high ground on this issue, he has from the very beginning of it and many Americans understand that. Nothing in his op-ed in the NYT is factually incorrect and the US has installed our historic enemy to power in Egypt, Libya and is working for that in Syria. Iran, China and Russia are all resolute that that will not happen, so good luck US!

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I won't hold my breath. Indeed, I don't hold my breath for anything ANY politician the world over promises.
    Well yes, I will agree with you that we shouldn't hold our breath. I do believe both Russia and China are sincere in their concerns of a US attack on Syria causing the war to explode throughout the region. And I fail to understand why I'm not hearing US law makers express their concerns of the same.

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    I wonder how much more pressure against the wall will Obama take before he either gives down or blows up in an attack against Syria! You see Assad (now, next after Putin) has pinned Obama in the corner so bad now that really is no way out.

    Assad is asking something that cannot possible be done, and that is: Israel handing over their non existent nuclear weapons. Telling Assad that there are none is begging for an attack on Israel. On the other point there are none and how would they remove something that there is not to begin with?

    But yeah, I suppose they can invent some missiles there so as to appear as if they are retreating nukes from Israel too...
    Mornin DDD. Yeah but what was submitted to the UN by Syria for joining in on Chems.....doesn't have anything in it about Israel or the US.

    Moreover the US can't speak for other countries in assuring they wont attack Syria. So it is nothing but Assad doing some smack talking. Playing to the Media and still doing all he can to make Obama and the US look bad. Although.....what I don't understand is why Assad isn't saying anything about France who has been the one behind the scenes causing and stirring up trouble over Syria.

    Why is nothing mentioned by the Russians and Assad when they know for a Fact that it the French in Obama's ear? Why aren't they harping on the US playing the telephone game all due to the French and their BS as well as their being incompetent on the World Stage?

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    President Obama must promise not to arm rebel forces or Syrian dictator Bashar Assad will not hand over his chemical weapons, the embattled leader told a Russian state media outlet today while demanding that Israel also surrender its nuclear arsenal.

    “When we see that the U.S. genuinely stands for stability in our region, stops threatening us with military intervention and stops supplying terrorists with weapons, then we will consider it possible to finalize all necessary procedures and they will become legitimate and acceptable for Syria," Assad told RIA News.

    Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels, or no deal | WashingtonExaminer.com
    If we fall for this, I think Jimmy Carter is officially supplanted.

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well yes, I will agree with you that we shouldn't hold our breath. I do believe both Russia and China are sincere in their concerns of a US attack on Syria causing the war to explode throughout the region
    .......how?

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    I guess, what do you mean "what do you mean"?

    Well that didn't last long. - the agreement won't work with those kind of counter demands, not that Assad is in a position to demand anything after using chem weapons

    I guess...so? - Can't believe people believed Putin was sincere

    Just enough...own. - to Assad I mean

    It is not only a reasonable demand, its quite shameful that the US has to even be told to stop arming, training and giving material aid to the terrorists! The US prosecutes American people for doing the same. One of president Putins legitimate points in his NYT op-ed. and STOP repeating the unproven claim that president Assad used chemical weapons on his own citizens.

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