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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The rockets used in the attack are not known to be in rebel hands. It was Assad.
    Which rebel faction is paying you off or are you spreading that propoganda pro-bono?

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Which rebel faction is paying you off or are you spreading that propoganda pro-bono?

    The team did identify two types or rockets it said were used to deliver the gas and their trajectories, and international observers have said those weapons are not known to be in the hands of rebels battling the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

    Australian U.N. Ambassador Gary Quinlan, who is currently serving as president of the Security Council, said the report bolsters his country's stance. It "confirms, in our view, that there is no remaining doubt that it was the regime that used chemical weapons."

    And Samantha Power, the U.S. ambassador, said a preliminary review of the report points toward forces loyal to al-Assad. "The regime possesses sarin, and we have no evidence that the opposition possesses sarin," Power said. "It defies logic" to think members of the opposition would have infiltrated a regime-controlled area to fire on opposition-controlled areas.

    Britain, France, and NATO have also said al-Assad's regime was behind the attack. But Russia is Syria's leading ally, and Russian U.N. Ambassador Vitaly Churkin maintained Moscow's stance that Syrian rebels might be to blame.
    'War crime': U.N. finds sarin used in Syria chemical weapons attack - CNN.com


    1. The rebels do not have those rockets.
    2. The rebels do not have sarin.
    3. The chems were withdrawn from an Assad facility, without resistance. The US claims photo evidence of this.
    4. The rockets were prepared, assembled and launched from ~10 different locations within Assad territory, without resistance.

    Let's be real.

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    I read this link you provioded. You obviously didn't.


    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    1. The rebels do not have those rockets.
    How can you prove such a thing? Is concision proof?


    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    2. The rebels do not have sarin.
    How can you prove such a thing? Is concision proof?


    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    3. The chems were withdrawn from an Assad facility, without resistance. The US claims photo evidence of this.
    Where? I didn't read that in the report. What page was it on, and quote it please so I can find it.


    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    4. The rockets were prepared, assembled and launched from ~10 different locations within Assad territory, without resistance.

    Let's be real.
    Where? I didn't read that in the report. What page was it on, and quote it please so I can find it.


    Why are you making things up? The US report does not say Assad used chemical weapons. They say "high degree of confidence." this generally means about an 8 in 10 chance.

    We assess with high confidence that the Syrian government carried out the chemical weapons
    attack against opposition elements in the Damascus suburbs on August 21. We assess that the
    scenario in which the opposition executed the attack on August 21 is highly unlikely. The body
    of information used to make this assessment includes intelligence pertaining to the regime's
    preparations for this attack and its means of delivery, multiple streams of intelligence about the
    attack itself and its effect, our post-attack observations, and the differences between the
    capabilities of the regime and the opposition. Our high confidence assessment is the strongest
    position that the U.S. Intelligence Community can take short of confirmation.
    We will continue
    to seek additional information to close gaps in our understanding of what took place.
    ...short of confirmation...

    Get it?

    Do you have any honesty in what you say?

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Do you have any honesty in what you say?
    Do you have anything except conspiracy theory based nihilism?

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Ok... how many civilians have been killed by Assad's forces, in your guess/estimation/opinion?
    Impossible to count.

    The rebels don't wear uniforms. Once the survivors take their weapons to use again, propaganda can be they were civilians.

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Do you have anything except conspiracy theory based nihilism?
    Why is it a conspiracy to want certain proofs before declaring war with Syria? What if that 20% left over from the "high confidence" is the true answer?

    Are you willing to bomb another nation with a 20% uncertainty?

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Why is it a conspiracy to want certain proofs before declaring war with Syria? What if that 20% left over from the "high confidence" is the true answer?

    Are you willing to bomb another nation with a 20% uncertainty?

    Did you pull that 20% out of nowhere? Tell the truth.

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Did you pull that 20% out of nowhere? Tell the truth.
    I said already:

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar
    They say "high degree of confidence." this generally means about an 8 in 10 chance.
    OK, you tell me. What percentage do you perceive "high confidence" to mean. as I have learned it, it is the 8 in 10 probability.

    Very high confidence: At least 9 out of 10 chance
    High confidence: 8 out of 10 chance
    Medium confidence: About 5 out of 10 chance
    Low confidence: 2 out of 10 chance
    Very low confidence: Less than 1 out of 10 chance

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I said already:



    OK, you tell me. What percentage do you perceive "high confidence" to mean. as I have learned it, it is the 8 in 10 probability.

    Very high confidence: At least 9 out of 10 chance
    High confidence: 8 out of 10 chance
    Medium confidence: About 5 out of 10 chance
    Low confidence: 2 out of 10 chance
    Very low confidence: Less than 1 out of 10 chance

    Citation?

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Why is it a conspiracy to want certain proofs before declaring war with Syria? What if that 20% left over from the "high confidence" is the true answer?

    Are you willing to bomb another nation with a 20% uncertainty?
    Yes he is, in fact he's been salivating at the prospect from the beginning and is frustrated by delays. I don't think he's had a good nights sleep since Kerry offered his deal 10 days ago.

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