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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    What he said.

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    That's Right Mr I.....like the backers of the FSA. The Muslim Brotherhood and the Salafists. 2 Right off the top that can be thought of. Which we had that up with the numbers. Just like that bit on Syria already dividing up into 3 regions. Which each area pretty much calling themselves the law in it. Course we had have that up to. Not just the one sided story.

    Btw don't forget we now have a thread up for the Rebel/Terrorists and all that do and have done. Especially anytime they open their mouths. So keep dropping all their just desserts in there and Let the Good Light shine upon them.
    Can you provide a link for both of the threads?

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    And I never said you did.



    What happened with Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden was a series of un-foreseeable coincidences and circumstances that were far beyond out control.

    Syria is not being invaded by communist forces. We know who the bad guys are.
    Even though they were defending their country, how was helping Islamic radicals in Afghanistan and the problems that would cause unforeseen? I understand that hindsight is 20/20 but look at what we did. We involved ourselves in an armed struggle at the end of the cold war with one of the cold war combatants. We had no particular national interest in the struggle. We just didn't want Russia to have the upper hand. When the struggle was over we didn't turn Afghanistan into an ally. The Taliban moved in, took over and now we've lost thousands of American lives there. We didn't get involved in the struggle between China and Tibet, why Afghanistan? We gained nothing other than arming the Taliban. Similarly, why Syria? Both sides have chemical weapons. Assad said he would give his up with the Russian solution. The rebels say no to that and your suggestion is that we assist the side which wants to retain possession of their chemical stockpile.

    If we don't learn from our mistakes we're bound to repeat them.

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    They are all bad guys. we shouldn't be helping either side.
    Jesus people. Repeating a lie does not make it true. Yes, there are bad apples. That doesn't mean all are bad. Just like Robert Bales doesn't make the entire US military evil.
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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Can you provide a link for both of the threads?
    Sure Serenity.....although I thought I did show you the one on the MB. Its in this thread.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...t-regions.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...democracy.html

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    They are all bad guys. we shouldn't be helping either side.
    Head-in-sand absolutism for the win?


    WASHINGTON — Extremist groups make up between 15% and 25% of the rebels fighting Syrian leader Bashar Assad, but moderate forces are growing stronger as a result of support from regional allies, Secretary of State John Kerry told Congress on Wednesday.

    "I just don't agree that a majority are al-Qaeda and the bad guys," Kerry said in testimony before the House Foreign Affairs Committee. "That's not true."
    Kerry: Syrian rebels have not been hijacked by extremists

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Sure Serenity.....although I thought I did show you the one on the MB. Its in this thread.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...t-regions.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...democracy.html
    You did but i'm too lazy and busy to look for them right now and thought other posters might be interested in them, especially considering there are many posts all over the forum on the crisis and they may get missed.

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Despite Kerry claiming 15% of rebels are terrorists and the UN claiming that Assad leads in massacres 8:1, people still try to spew the disgusting lie that there are no good guys in Syria.

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Jesus people. Repeating a lie does not make it true. Yes, there are bad apples. That doesn't mean all are bad. Just like Robert Bales doesn't make the entire US military evil.
    Well then lets put it this way.....there are no good guys that will be taking power. There are no good guys that make up any power structure or have some sort of backing and base. Wherein they could be construed as a party of Ruling force.

    That majority of the FSA are made up of Defectors/Traitors, which happened to be mostly Sunni. The same Sunni that Assad allowed into Command positions with in his Armed Forces. The Sunni in which they systematically kill Shia. Then go after Christians. Who btw way Are standing with Assad and not the Rebels/ Terrorists.

    Assad is an Alawite and they are tied to the Shia. The Rebels / Terrorists refuse to negotiate or attend peace talks. Moreover they have come out and stated that No Alawites will be allowed in any shaping of the Future of Syria. They will not be allowed to be in government.

    To top that off......Al Nusra which has 30 opposition brigades, Councils and civilian committees. Have stated they do not recognize the FSA nor the STNC. That the FSA and STNC will not be deciding anything about the Future of Syria. Which now they just Gangster the FSA and take what they want.

    Then there is the Kurds who are fighting against Al Nusra and AQ as well as the PKK. Which do not put to much faith in Assad nor the Sunni. Which they cannot be backed to take Control of Syria. As for one the Turks say that aint happening. As well as the Sunni Muslims that make up over 60 million inside Syria. Which is the same problem Assad has ran into. Wherein the Sunni backed by the Saud and Qatar have decided they should be handed over another country to run.

    While looking to accomplish the complete genocide of the Shia.

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    Re: Assad tells Obama to stop arming rebels or no deal

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Despite Kerry claiming 15% of rebels are terrorists and the UN claiming that Assad leads in massacres 8:1, people still try to spew the disgusting lie that there are no good guys in Syria.
    That's because Kerry like the French and the Opposition don't know how to count. Yet they still like to admit they don't know who they are dealing with nor who is all behind who.

    Of course your narrative concerning the FSA being the good guys. Was already debunked. Which again produce a link to the good guys that can attain power and who they are and what they are standing for in Syria?

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...em-attack.html

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