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    Re: Putin uses NYT Op-Ed to warn US against Syria strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I can't imagine any foreign leader having the balls to do this to our previous presidents, not even Carter.

    It is such a gross lack of respect. Can you imagine a U.S. president condescendingly addressing the leader of Russia or China in their home media?
    I blame your media for this!!! They have been laying down and doing only newsworthy reports to the laypeople there!! They should gear up and do newsworthy reports to the interests of the whole country instead!!
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    Re: Putin uses NYT Op-Ed to warn US against Syria strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I for one, very much believe that Putin wants Assad to turn over his chemical weapons for destruction. And I believe he will work toward that end. Assad cannot have any credibility if he uses them or fails to secure them and the rebels get them and use them again. Putin understands this. The thing is, if the US would just get the **** out of the way, Putin would handle this and keep his ally in line. It is the US's covert activity that has prolonged the war, costing more innocent lives and frustrated president Assad's ability to effectively fight his own war on terror.
    Except that Assad is the terror? He shot his civilians, schoolchildren and their weeping parents?

    You have faith in Putin I see? His speech got to you did it not?
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    Re: Putin uses NYT Op-Ed to warn US against Syria strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Come on Crue, again, IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN that president Assad used chemical weapons on his citizens, and secondly, had the US kept out from the beginning, there wouldn't be 100K dead and the situation would have been over long ago. It is largely the US's fault that it has lasted as long as it has and that there are as many dead as there is.
    Did it not occurred to you by now that perhaps Obama is certain that Assad did it but cannot use the sources to back up his claims because the sources work for Assad's inner circle?!?!?!
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    Re: Putin uses NYT Op-Ed to warn US against Syria strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    wait a minute. how have we been involved in syria!

    and maybe why the war has lasted so long is because Russia is supplying weapons and ammo to the Assad regime.

    maybe Russia should spend more of its money on helping the Syrian refugees who have been displaced by the civil war, rather then funneling weapons into the country to prolong the conflict.
    Why should Putin be bothered with that? Leave such humaine issues to US allies like Turkiye for instance!!

    Nah, he has more important things to do. Such as support the dictator and mass murderer of Syria. You know, the usual stuff Russians always do!
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    Re: Putin uses NYT Op-Ed to warn US against Syria strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Then you would loose your bet. Putin IS genuinely concerned and clearly wishes to defuse the tinder box we have.
    Sure, he probably should have Obama's Nobel peace prize too!
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    Re: Putin uses NYT Op-Ed to warn US against Syria strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Don't know where you've been but "respect" for the US has been in decline for sometime now, and for good and obvious reasons to many of us.
    Well it has not fallen here. Where are these "many of you" at?
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    Re: Putin uses NYT Op-Ed to warn US against Syria strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Seriously, your unaware of the covert work of the US in Syria from the beginning? Really!
    So you know that there is covert work. Why is it difficult to believe that Assad's inner circle had been compromised by this covert work then? The President Obama knows something about chems and pins it on Assad for some so sure for such reasons perhaps?

    If Obama tells why he is so certain you can be rest assured what would happen to Assad's inner circle convert! I can tell you this much though: Your beloved and concerned Putin (Amazing what media would have you believe) will not shelter the one like he did to Snowden, nor would he spread flowers on a shiny red carpet for the one within Assad's circle to jolly walk in slow motion low gravity moves neither!
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    Re: Putin uses NYT Op-Ed to warn US against Syria strike

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I never said that the U.S. should attack Syria.
    Exactly. This is about Putin's "shiny image" of a concerned caregiver over issues escalating in the area. Basically it is about squashing Russian BS propaganda that has influenced so well some of DP members here! (Yeah I am looking at you Monte!!)

    Whether US should attack Syria or not is a different issue!
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    Re: Putin uses NYT Op-Ed to warn US against Syria strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    You mistake respect for being liked. A common flaw among liberals.

    International respect largely comes from fear. They'll never love you because they don't want to love you. That's what you don't get. The only thing they respect is strength and power. Period.

    That's the real world. The kumbaya you want doesn't exist.
    There are many countries whom are internationals to USA. Be more specific whom should fear and whom should like you.
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    Re: Putin uses NYT Op-Ed to warn US against Syria strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Those who read the entire op-ed piece should see that president Putin didn't disrespect the US but he did point out truths that are embarrassing.
    I think for Putin assuming the role of USA's President and having to address USA's people is disrespectful enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That the US ignores the UN when they don't get their way,
    Required because Russia can veto it. In the meanwhile civilians die from dictators that Russians support. There has to be a way around this and the USA uses it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    that the US uses brute force to interfere with nations internal conflicts,
    Because those nations use brute force against civilians.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    that the US is arming extremist groups that our own state department has designated as terrorist groups
    Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, and some other independent groups are declared terrorists. The rebels themselves are fighting for freedom against Assad's regime.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    and that in the process the US is violating international law. Not really much to argue with.
    Exactly, just pile up what the USA did, put a different tone to it, and you have a vision that USA is the bully instead! It is not Assad that shoots civilians or that orders chemical weapon attacks on them that it is the bully. Nah, that is normal. Wanting to intervene for humane causes and support human's rights as well as other United Nation's red lines is in fact bullying - is what Putin's propaganda there is all about.

    You see there is plenty of stuff to argue with these. Starting from, why do you fall for rival propaganda as easily? I mean I could understand putting both perspectives into the table and analyze and critically evaluate the two sources. But what you have done throughout this thread is only point out moves from the Russian's perspective! Why is that?
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