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US Police arrest Florida pastor

I agree both sides do it but there is tons of it from the right. I posted the link I thing it was post #2 or at least on the first couple of pages.
mak2 said:
He faces two charges: unlawful conveyance of fuel, and unlawful open carry of a firearm, according to the Polk County Sheriff's Office.


Read more: Terry Jones arrested en route to Koran-burning - FOX 35 News Orlando
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davidtaylorjr said:
Thanks for the information. Do you have a link to the story? By the way it isn't just the RWBlogosphere that does that, let's not make that assumption that the Left doesn't also do this....
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Ray410 said:
How easily Obama gave Islam control over America. Absolutely disgusting cowardice by our leaders.
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Precisely how is the religion of Islam controlling America?
 
No, you have to limit people driving around with enough kerosene to be a danger to the public, carry your firearms according to the law and register your trailer.

ChrisL said:
I don't really like this. We have to limit freedom for fear of pissing off the terrorists?
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mak2 said:
No, you have to limit people driving around with enough kerosene to be a danger to the public, carry your firearms according to the law and register your trailer.
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If you don't want to discuss the topic, just say so, or don't reply.
 
lolabird said:
Precisely how is the religion of Islam controlling America?
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Tell us why this man shouldn't be able to burn a holy book in an act of symbolism?
 
that is the topic. That is why he was arrested. Have you read anything?
ChrisL said:
If you don't want to discuss the topic, just say so, or don't reply.
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mak2 said:
that is the topic. That is why he was arrested. Have you read anything?
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The real reason is because they were observing him because of his announcement.
 
lolabird said:
Would you explain the symbolism and what it means?
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That would be for the pastor to explain, and that is irrelevant when it comes to freedom and the idea that people oppose so strongly this man burning a holy book out of fear of retaliation. That means the terrorists are winning.

The most violent protest happened after the 2011 Quran burning as hundreds of protesters stormed a U.N. compound in Mazar-i-Sharif in northern Afghanistan, killing seven foreigners, including four Nepalese guards.
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mak2 said:
He can. You need to read a little bit first.
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Well then why are people so opposed to his burning the book? Because that's what this thread is really about.
 
ChrisL said:
That would be for the pastor to explain, and that is irrelevant when it comes to freedom and the idea that people oppose so strongly this man burning a holy book out of fear of retaliation. That means the terrorists are winning.
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If you don't understand it, why would you support it? What is your idea of freedom?
 
mak2 said:
that is the topic. That is why he was arrested. Have you read anything?
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Nobody is arguing about the technical reasons of why he was arrested. I think the real argument here is people condemning him for the symbolic act of burning a book because they fear retaliation. That's the real interesting story here.
 
lolabird said:
If you don't understand it, why would you support it? What is your idea of freedom?
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“Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”

Ben Franklin
 
Higgins86 said:
Because it incites hatred and puts lives at risk...
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The legal meaning of incitement and your use thereof are absolutely worlds apart.

It really has nothing to do with the reaction of violent, oversensitive people thousands of miles away, and more to do with actually encouraging a mob towards violent action. By perverting the meaning the way you are doing, you allow the reaction to an act to determine its legality, and hand the right to limit one person's actions to the most violent people who might react.

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I am all for his burning what ever he wants to. But this story is being circulated as he was arrested to stop his freedom of speech. It is simply not true. I imagine he did it on purpose so this dishonest story could circulate around the RW blogosphere getting everyone all work up over the PC, Obama giving the country to the muslims etc. Kinda amusing to watch, but still I think we should really look at exactly what happened.
ChrisL said:
Well then why are people so opposed to his burning the book? Because that's what this thread is really about.
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Gardener said:
The legal meaning of incitement and your use thereof are absolutely worlds apart.

It really has nothing to do with the reaction of violent, oversensitive people thousands of miles away, and more to do with actually encouraging a mob towards violent action. By perverting the meaning the way you are doing, you allow the reaction to an act to determine its legality, and hand the right to limit one person's actions to the most violent people who might react.

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That's how I view it too. They should be held accountable for their violent reactions. Doesn't mean this pastor isn't a trouble maker, but let's just look at some other examples of such violence.

'South Park' Creators Could Face Retribution for Depicting Muhammad, Website Warns | Fox News
 
lolabird said:
If you don't understand it, why would you support it? What is your idea of freedom?
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It doesn't really matter what the symbolism was. The issue is one of freedom of speech. Iow, we all have the right to free expression. We just don't have the right to cause physical harm. We don't make exceptions to rights, based on the fact that someone's feelings may be hurt, or because we may be offended.
 
ChrisL said:
Nobody is arguing about the technical reasons of why he was arrested. I think the real argument here is people condemning him for the symbolic act of burning a book because they fear retaliation. That's the real interesting story here.
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I'd have to agree. I hate the idea of burning books, flags, or anything of the like. However, with that said I don't think it should be illegal or have the government lean on people to prevent it. We are supposed to live in a country where freedom of expression is not only a right, but should also be encouraged regardless of whether we agree with it or not.

I do think the Pastor though is trying to be a drama queen, because even he knows that he cannot just burn things whereever he wants to. He knows about permits and he knows this would garner attention which is what I think he was seeking.
 
ChrisL said:
“Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”

Ben Franklin
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Why do you dance around my direct questions and throw out a quote from Ben Franklin, who died 223 years ago?
What are your thoughts on the Patriot Act adopted under the Bush Admn.? Did you feel safer after the 9-11 attacks?
If the Florida preacher is really a man of God, why would he publicly draw attention to himself by burning thousands of Qurans? Why is it necessary to disrespect another religion and call your small-minded smugness freedom? Have you read from the Quran?
 
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