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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I don't care who I'm defending. If he's an American he has rights, and no amount of whining on your part will change that.
    Rights are not absolute and no amount of hysterical exaggerated fallacious ranting on your part will change that either.

    Burning books is not inciting violence.
    Burning books is censurship. But desecrating the holy book of Islam incites violence. You seem to be defending both.

    I find it beyond disgusting that you blame him over the islamists. Keep giving up freedom out of your morbid fear. You must be a BIG fan of the patriot act.
    "First they burn the books, then they burn the people." You must be a BIG fan of fascism.

    And no, my question wasn't a rhetorical slippery slope fallacy, it was an example showing that you're inconsistent. If they started killing people over anything we were doing, you would throw your liberties at them in an attempt to save your neck.
    If someone put a burning cross on your lawn you'd defend their right to do it, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Rights are not absolute and no amount of hysterical exaggerated fallacious ranting on your part will change that either.

    Burning books is censurship. But desecrating the holy book of Islam incites violence. You seem to be defending both.

    "First they burn the books, then they burn the people." You must be a BIG fan of fascism.

    If someone put a burning cross on your lawn you'd defend their right to do it, right?
    You're really comparing some loon burning books to the nazi's systematical campaign to destroy all jewish literature?

    You're just a big ball of hyperbole aren't you?

    Sorry, burning books isn't censorship, and I for one don't make my decisions out of fear like you do. Burning books isn't illegal. Americans have rights, even assholes. I guess you want to ban drawing Muhammad too, right? More of your security over freedom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You're really comparing some loon burning books to the nazi's systematical campaign to destroy all jewish literature?

    You're just a big ball of hyperbole aren't you?

    Sorry, burning books isn't censorship, and I for one don't make my decisions out of fear like you do. Burning books isn't illegal. Americans have rights, even assholes.
    It wasn't just "Jewish literature" the Nazis burned.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharona View Post
    It wasn't just "Jewish literature" the Nazis burned.
    They were targeting all foreign literature, which happened to be largely Jewish, but clearly they burned other things. I think you're honing in on stupid details instead of actually addressing the point.

    I'm not moot, I don't think we should give up rights because the muslims will throw temper tantrums.
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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    They were targeting all foreign literature, which happened to be largely Jewish, but clearly they burned other things. I think you're honing in on stupid details instead of actually addressing the point.

    I'm not moot, I don't think we should give up rights because the muslims will throw temper tantrums.
    I think most Muslims would likely ignore this idiot Terry Jones.

    I also think that people would be ticked off if he was going to burn 3,000 Bibles or Torahs.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You're really comparing some loon burning books to the nazi's systematical campaign to destroy all jewish literature?
    I'm not the first or the only one who has made the obvious comparison. And Nazi's didn't just burn Jewish literature.

    Sorry, burning books isn't censorship, and I for one don't make my decisions out of fear like you do. Burning books isn't illegal. Americans have rights, even assholes.
    You're not very informed, are you? You don't even understand what your defending.

    "Book burning" refers to the ritual destruction by fire of books or other written materials. Usually carried out in a public context, the burning of books represents an element of censorship and usually proceeds from a cultural, religious, or political opposition to the materials in question....
    Book Burning

    Since ancient times, people from virtually all religions and societies have burned books as a form of censorship, protest, or hate mongering.

    As long as there have been materials deemed lewd or blasphemous, there have been attempts to ban them. Those burning books as an act of censorship on ideological grounds often display religious intolerance, such as that exhibited during the Spanish Inquisition or the reign of the Taliban....
    Book Burning, 213 BC to 2011 AD

    History : Book Burning and Censorship

    History of Book Censorship


    Censurship and religious intolerance....is that your idea of freedom?

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
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    Censurship and religious intolerance....is that your idea of freedom?
    Political statements are often offensive--a tactic you don't mind using--and burning religious texts can be an offensive political statement. Here is a clue--Jews often bury their old books because they believe that destroying printed documents referring to God as a Sacrilege.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharona View Post
    I think most Muslims would likely ignore this idiot Terry Jones.

    I also think that people would be ticked off if he was going to burn 3,000 Bibles or Torahs.
    You have a right as an American to get ticked off, just as he has a right to burn his property if he chooses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I'm not the first or the only one who has made the obvious comparison. And Nazi's didn't just burn Jewish literature.

    You're not very informed, are you? You don't even understand what your defending.

    "Book burning" refers to the ritual destruction by fire of books or other written materials. Usually carried out in a public context, the burning of books represents an element of censorship and usually proceeds from a cultural, religious, or political opposition to the materials in question....
    Book Burning

    Since ancient times, people from virtually all religions and societies have burned books as a form of censorship, protest, or hate mongering.

    As long as there have been materials deemed lewd or blasphemous, there have been attempts to ban them. Those burning books as an act of censorship on ideological grounds often display religious intolerance, such as that exhibited during the Spanish Inquisition or the reign of the Taliban....
    Book Burning, 213 BC to 2011 AD

    History : Book Burning and Censorship

    History of Book Censorship


    Censurship and religious intolerance....is that your idea of freedom?
    An individual burning a book is not censorship. When you're ready to answer my question instead of ignoring it, I will address your posts.

    If Bob were to threaten John that if John didn't stop listening to rap music, he would kill someone. John, knowing this, decides to listen to rap music anyway, and Bob, as promised, kills someone.

    You really want to blame John in this situation?


    Curtailing your freedom based on threats is the true sign of a coward.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    But you're okay with censorship and inciting violence?

    Bush apologized for the desecration of the Koran. I assume he did that to protect our troops and Americans abroad.


    "....On Saturday, the top American commander in Baghdad, Maj. Gen. Jeffery Hammond, and other officers held a formal ceremony apologizing to tribal chiefs in Radwaniyah.

    Bush's apology followed similar moves by the No. 2 U.S. commander in Iraq to placate the Iraqis, apologizing in separate meetings Monday with al-Maliki, Vice President Tariq al-Hashemi and parliament speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani.

    The U.S. military said Lt. Gen. Lloyd J. Austin III paid individual visits to al-Maliki, a Shiite Muslim, al-Hashemi and al-Mashhadani, both Sunni Arabs - moves underlining the American eagerness to make amends for the incident, particularly among Sunni Arabs who have become key allies in the fight against insurgents.

    In their meeting in his office, al-Hashemi, the top Sunni Arab in the government, told Austin that "the feelings of bitterness and anger cannot be eased unless there is a deterrent punishment and real guarantees" such an incident won't be repeated, according to al-Hashemi's office.

    Al-Hashemi expressed his appreciation for the visit but asked for a written apology from the U.S. military.

    Austin underlined in all three meetings that "the soldier had in fact been removed from Iraq. He assured them that the matter was serious and that we hold our soldiers accountable for their actions," a U.S. military statement said.

    Al-Hashemi's Iraqi Islamic Party also issued a tough statement Monday saying that an apology alone was not enough and the U.S. military should impose the "severest punishment" on the soldier to ensure others do not repeat his act....

    Bush Apologizes For Quran Desecration - CBS News
    Inciting what violence? That's stupid.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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