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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Yes, Peter, I understand that. But pointing to what is established law doesn't answer my question.
    but what else do you want? You ask as to why it is discrimination, well, it is discrimination because that is how it works. Saying that the Jews have lied/made up the holocaust is an insult to the Jewish people in general and an insult to the Dutch Jews that survived the holocaust.

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    1 Jews are liars~!!!

    How did I just compromise the human right's of Mbig? I doubt the fellow even noticed
    Dignity is part of human rights, by making the racist remark that Jews lie, people violate the law that forbids insulting a whole people.

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    2) How does questioning a historical event inherently "claim that the Jews are liars, profiteers, etc"?
    The trial in which the high court decided that denial of the holocaust violated our anti-discrimination/hate speech law, and the reason why I said "profiteers" was because the suspect in the case said:

    De zes miljoen is wellicht de zwendel van deze eeuw, die zowel door het establishment, door de belanghebbenden als door het onkritisch en gemakzuchtig denken wordt in stand gehouden," en. Waarom is deze discussie nog aktueel? Voor de Holocaust-supporters betekent het aanzienlijke financiŽle steun voor de staat IsraŽl, een eindeloze bron van inkomsten voor de overlevenden en hun nakomelingen, maar vooral een moreel vrij spel voor het zionisme in het Midden-Oosten
    The 6 million might be the biggest scam of the century, that is being continued by the establishment, as well as the people who stand to gain by this scam. And this scam is being kept in place through no critical thought process and never criticizing and complacence. Why is this discussion still being held today? Because for the holocaust supporters this scam means large financial support for the state of Israel, an endless source of income for the survivors and their decendants, but it is especially meant to create a moral firewall for the Zionism in the Middle East.

    And this person had even a lot more comments about the lies and deceitful nature of the Jews (which is BS of course).

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    3) While such can be used to attack Jewish people, so what? Are you saying such words can't be challenged, or that outlawing such words prevents people from still thinking or even communicating such things (which actually makes them only harder to address)?
    No, I am saying that denying the holocaust in the Netherlands can get you prosecuted. And the courts and the justice department are the ones who either prosecute or convict people who break this law.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Perhaps, but the article you posted does little to show intent to incite violence. It does cast the fellow and his wife as first class assholes, but that's about it. Besides, counting on Der Spiegel for any sort of moral authority or judgement on American matters is a huge mistake to begin with.
    Der Spiegal merely confirms what other articles have said about him. Apparently, Pastor Jones has a long history of using fear and intimidation to gain attention for himself.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Pastor arrested before he could burn Qurans


    Glad they could stop this dickhead before he cost more life's.
    So, you're ok with someone's 1st Amendment rights being crapped on?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I'm glad that an idiot wasn't allowed to burn thousands of religious texts and by doing so endanger nato soldiers in Afghan. Yes I'm very glad
    So, by not burning the Korans, the islamofacists hate us less? They won't try to kill our troops, now? Combat in Afghanistan will just be dangerous vice real dangerous?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Aside from driving down the highway towing a bbq full of Qurans doused in kerosene without a permit......apparently he was attempting to incite violence and retaliation against US and NATO troops in Afganistan.

    From the OP...
    Oh right...because the IF's weren't already trying to kill our troops. It's totally amazing how people fell for that BS.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharona View Post
    He had no permit to build a bonfire in a public park.
    Is a permit required? Please provide a link with your answer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    He faces two charges: unlawful conveyance of fuel, and unlawful open carry of a firearm, according to the Polk County Sheriff's Office.


    Read more: Terry Jones arrested en route to Koran-burning - FOX 35 News Orlando
    "Unlawful conveyance of fuel"?...lol
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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharona View Post
    They will bring charges. You can't build a bonfire in a public park.. In most towns and cities you can't even burn leaves. Terry Jones is crazy.. that's why he was deported from Germany. He abused his congregation.
    Did he build a bonfire, or light up a bbq pit?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Come on, transporting 3000 books soaked in a flammable liquid on the highway is stupid. Otherwise I would be all for him practicing his free speech, no matter how stupid.
    Dont buy Matchlight charcoal and haul it home in your car, because guess what...you're breaking the law.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharona View Post
    I am not a proponent of book burning... that includes all sorts of books...

    The Nazis burned books.
    Most of the SA members were gay, too.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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