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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    If our constitutional freedom of speech allows burning the American flags and carrying insulting posters at military funerals, then it allows burning a bunch of books. Muslims are not special little snowflakes on US soil or in the US constitution.
    But apparently you are, snowflake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Yes we would and have. I'm a Christian. I don't agree with people burning the Bible, but I recognize their first amendment right to do it.
    Actually the Romans crucified Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I agree. The constitution is not a suggestion, nor is it something to be ignored when convenient to do so. Lots of people say and do crap everyday that makes me want to punch 'em in the throat, but the constitution gives them the right to express themselves, even hatefully.
    What happened to Paula Deen's rights?

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Sorry, and you think this is relevant because???

    They are simply responsible for their actions and we hold tem accountable even though we may not be able to punish them immediately if ever. If I murder you and then escape to a nation where I cannot be extradited to the USA, do you no longer hold me accountable? As you can see you point has no merit in discussing how WE handle free speech rights.
    I feel comfortable saying that I place protecting innocent lives above anyones right to free speech. It sounds like that is your point. It seems people are usually all over protecting rights until its their life that is traded for that right. Then you better be damn sure that freedom is actually at risk.
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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    If our constitutional freedom of speech allows burning the American flags and carrying insulting posters at military funerals, then it allows burning a bunch of books. Muslims are not special little snowflakes on US soil or in the US constitution.
    Its not the muslims in the US that are the issue

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Its not the muslims in the US that are the issue
    Why pretend to have freedom if you are going to cower behind not offending someone somewhere who are offended by your very existence already?

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Kinda torn on this issue.


    On the one hand, free expression is free expression.


    On the other, stunts like this DO stir **** and may get people killed in reaction.


    Dunno.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Why pretend to have freedom if you are going to cower behind not offending someone somewhere who are offended by your very existence already?
    Well like it or not the US is the world leader and everything she does has a consequence, you have soldiers fighting in Muslim countries, embassies and have huge business ties in Muslim countries. A US soldier/ allied soldier/ embassy worker gets killed because of the actions of a radical in your own country is something you have to control. Now if the US were isolationists then I would say crack on but your not and unfourtuntly if you want to keep order/ remain on good terms with these people you have to make some sacrifices.
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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Kinda torn on this issue.


    On the one hand, free expression is free expression.


    On the other, stunts like this DO stir **** and may get people killed in reaction.


    Dunno.
    I am more concerned this was to be done in a public park and that he apparently was carting around fuel-soaked books. If a person had tossed a butt, who knows what may have happened. If he were doing this on their own church property, I would have no problem with it, whether he was burning them, Bibles, Playboys, etc.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Its not the muslims in the US that are the issue
    Which makes your disregard for free speech even worse.

    People in the United States should not have free speech because somebody in some hell hole like Afghanistan might not approve.
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