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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    No, criticism of a religion is well established to be within first amendment doctrine. Yes, because people are able to criticize ideas and ideologies here, and even do and say things that you disagree with.
    I have ZERO problem with Terry being a loud mouth smuck. I have ZERO problem with his opinion of Islam.

    But I have ZERO tolerance for someone desecrating other people's religious objects breaking the law while doing so. From pissing on a crucifix to this, if the culprit so much as litters grab 'em up.

    I realize some don't see a difference but to me there is a difference between talking and doing. Terry can criticize all he wants- book burning is beyond that.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    I hate to see someone disrespect the flag, I am even an American legion member and have been for about 20 years. But I understand as an American they have every right to do it. Just as Maplethorpe and Terry, as much as I hate it, they have the right.
    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I have ZERO problem with Terry being a loud mouth smuck. I have ZERO problem with his opinion of Islam.

    But I have ZERO tolerance for someone desecrating other people's religious objects breaking the law while doing so. From pissing on a crucifix to this, if the culprit so much as litters grab 'em up.

    I realize some don't see a difference but to me there is a difference between talking and doing. Terry can criticize all he wants- book burning is beyond that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Absolutely - just as people respect the rights of Muslim clerics who speak in the most vile of terms about Jews, Christians and other "infidels". Usually, the difference is that when Muslim clerics and their followers speak out, most other people simply ignore their ignorance and get on with their lives, however, when someone speaks out in an ignorant way about Muslims, those Muslims like to burn synagogs, churches and other buildings, beat people in the street, kidnap and behead those who spoke the words, etc.
    Wait we are talking about actions in the USofA- when did any Muslims burn down a synagogue in the USofA? Or a church?

    I recall a bunch of Christians protesting a Muslim Cultural Center near ground zero, but can't recall a Bible Burning done in Toledo...

    I'd say most people do look past the ignorance some Muslims engage in while some drag every last scrap of it they can on in here.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I hate to see someone disrespect the flag, I am even an American legion member and have been for about 20 years. But I understand as an American they have every right to do it. Just as Maplethorpe and Terry, as much as I hate it, they have the right.
    I agree up until I see the sidearm or the venue for the burn. I have no problem with the police arresting a flag burner carrying a firearm where it is prohibited. Expressing your 1st A right still has limits- in the Terry case it is clear he violated the law not by the actual protest but where, how and what he was carrying while exercising his right to free speech.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I'm glad that an idiot wasn't allowed to burn thousands of religious texts and by doing so endanger nato soldiers in Afghan. Yes I'm very glad
    So you are comfortable smooching the assholes of terrorists. Good for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    Are you pulling from your a-- to start and maintain controversy?
    Answer your own question.
    So, you opt for complete hypocrisy. Duly noted.

    You favor eliminating free speech when it is one crazy Christian hating on Muslims, but see no problem with countless Muslims hating on Jews or Christians.
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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Arresting him for the tranpostation of kerosene adn the firearm is very appropriate, and I think he planned that for the Fox news reporters and days of publicity in the RW blogoshpere.
    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I agree up until I see the sidearm or the venue for the burn. I have no problem with the police arresting a flag burner carrying a firearm where it is prohibited. Expressing your 1st A right still has limits- in the Terry case it is clear he violated the law not by the actual protest but where, how and what he was carrying while exercising his right to free speech.
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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Pastor arrested before he could burn Qurans


    Glad they could stop this dickhead before he cost more life's.
    I read into this thread, and just don't agree with your view.

    It wouldn't have been *his fault* if *they responded* negatively. . . it would have been *their fault* for being total freaking idiots and willing to kill each other over what someone does with a freaking book.

    They want to flip out and not care, cause a riot and kill each other - that's their ridiculous problem.

    They are responsible for their own actions.

    Hold the people who do the killing at fault for THEIR OWN emotions and out of control actions. Every time they do it 'in the name of their belief' they give people another legitimate reason to oppose their 'faith' - and that's their own damned fault, their own damned choice.

    They're throwing them selves on the ground and demanding all sorts of things be done - and you're just wanting the entire world to give in, do whatever it takes to appease the bully.

    Do you honestly think the bully is going to stop being the bully if we give them everything they want? WWII - the Bully was Germany, and the appeasement didn't end well.
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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Pastor arrested before he could burn Qurans


    Glad they could stop this dickhead before he cost more life's.
    Hopefully next time he burns the korans first and the posts a video of it. IF some guy wants to burn a bunch of books thats his business, I am sure the bookstores will appreciate his business. Had this guy been burning bibles I do not think the terrorist salad tossers would be saying he can't burn those bibles it would anger Christians.
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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Wait we are talking about actions in the USofA- when did any Muslims burn down a synagogue in the USofA? Or a church?

    I recall a bunch of Christians protesting a Muslim Cultural Center near ground zero, but can't recall a Bible Burning done in Toledo...

    I'd say most people do look past the ignorance some Muslims engage in while some drag every last scrap of it they can on in here.
    Sorry, but we're talking about trying to restict a person in the USA burning qurans because muslims will attack American troops and others in other parts of the world. Are you aware of any other religious group issuing a fatwa calling for the death of all members of another religious group or specifically an individual deemed to have insulted their spiritual leader?

    Let's not play games and pretend all are equal in the way they treat those outside their faith or with no religious affiliation at all.
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