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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's a completely different scenario altogether. Any dumbass can recognize that.
    Thanks for identifying yourself.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    Do you consider yourself to be a debater? Quoting the dead and using ad hominem does not make a debate.
    Better than you apparently. I'm still waiting for you to answer my question. I have a feeling I should give it up now though. You've made it quite clear that you have nothing of value to add to the discussion.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Oh please America has comprimised on citizens rights throughout her history! Most recently with the Patriots act.
    Yes, we know that, and many of us detest it. That doesn't mean that treading on our rights is a good or desirable thing. Why do you think so many of us complain about the PA? We don't blindly accept that anything our government does is a good thing.
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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    So if you witness a minority being excoriated by, lets say a skinhead, your opinion of freedom is it's the skinhead's right to express his rage and your right to look the other way.
    Aren't you glad you live in America?
    Well, number one, I don't live in America - that CanadaJohn user ID is usually a big give-away, if the Toronto location isn't - but having said that, I'd not be the slightest embarrassed to live in America based on the country's concepts of freedom and individual choice/responsibility.

    Secondly, why do you always refer to instances that are basically verbal assaults and have nothing to do with protesting? A skinhead picking out one minority and verbally assaulting them is not a protest, that's a verbal assault and subject to a charge in most jurisdictions. The children on the bus verbally assaulting the chaperone you mentioned earlier, also a verbal assault and not a protest. Now, if the skinhead joins other skinheads and marches in the town square to protest affirmative action, that would be freedom of speech that the government should not interfere with at all, no matter how vile or disgusting their actions may be.
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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is because the federal government has grown exponentially and have overreached their boundaries. No one would argue that fact. That is why a lot of us are here complaining about our rights to begin with, voting and trying to reach out to our fellow Americans to not tolerate such infringements on ANY of our rights.
    Dear God, do you ever study history? The Patriot Act manifested after the 9-11 attacks, which is not say that American rights have not been infringed upon throughout history as stated by Higgins86.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    Thanks for identifying yourself.
    Everyone look at this post. I've become aware that this is a tactic of this particular poster. Can't debate a point, has to bring up things that have nothing to do with the subject at hand, can't explain her position. Believe me, you aren't anything special or unique with this tactic. I've run into probably hundreds of you.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    Dear God, do you ever study history? The Patriot Act manifested after the 9-11 attacks, which is not say that American rights have not been infringed upon throughout history as stated by Higgins86.
    So your suggestion is to accept that and "go with the flow?" How silly.

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    We just beat bullies up around here. anyway, I think as long as they protest or whatever legally, no matter who they are, more power to them. I can ignore anyone but everyone should have a right to espouse their views, if legal.
    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    Then why in the world is there a crusade against bullying?
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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    So if you witness a minority being excoriated by, lets say a skinhead, your opinion of freedom is it's the skinhead's right to express his rage and your right to look the other way.
    Aren't you glad you live in America?
    What do you mean by excoriated?

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    Re: US Police arrest Florida pastor

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Pastor arrested before he could burn Qurans


    Glad they could stop this dickhead before he cost more life's.
    Unless they charge him for something content neutral like transporting hazardous materials improperly or without a permit, they have violated his rights. Freedom of Speech is pretty well-defended in law for unpopular acts. Even black ACLU lawyers will defend the right of the KKK to burn crosses.

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