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    Re: Companies lay off thousands, then demand immigration reform for new labor

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Yeah, legalizing those illegals here won't stop new ones from coming in and hence there will always be companies to take advantage of their situation. The legalizing of illegals back during Reagan was also suppose to put illegal immigration to bed, solve the problem once and for good. It didn't. Perhaps the questions is should we be rewarding people who broke the law? If I remember right, the figure was 3 million illegals during Reagan, what is it now, 11, 12 million or more. I read of figures as high as 20 million. Legalizing those all ready here won't do one thing to stop more from coming and we will go through this whole thing in another 20 years. We either enforce our laws or we don't.

    Once the USA was known as "The land of Laws" now we are known as the "The land which only enforces the laws they want too."
    Bold: And that right there is exactly why the Amnesty from Regan failed. He tried to make it to where the illegal problem was solved. Problem being that those particular laws were never enforced like they should have been. It also imo did not go far enough. I fully believe that we should strip any buisness of hiring illegals of their buisness license and forfeiture of all assets....with possible prison time...say a minimum of 5 years. And not just buisnesses either. But also anyone that rents, or sells any type of property to them. Make E-verify mandatory for both things.
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    Re: Companies lay off thousands, then demand immigration reform for new labor

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    People who are being paid unemployment compensation spend their time learning how to do a new job.
    And who pays for that?

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    Re: Companies lay off thousands, then demand immigration reform for new labor

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Yeah, if corporations in the hospitality, agribusiness and meat packing industries would stop knowningly hiring immigrants they can exploit, they would go home.

    I'm glad you support bringing criminal charges against CEOs who are violating immigration laws. Wait, you don't! It's more blaming the victims that conservatives always do.
    Who's job is it to secure our borders?

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    Re: Companies lay off thousands, then demand immigration reform for new labor

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Isn't this just a ploy to bring in more cheap labor that will make fewer demands?
    Please understand what it's like in the real world. If you are fortunate enough to compete globally, you compete against countries that have far, far lower labor costs, but just as importantly, far lower standards of living. You either compete with them, or you give up share to them. If you think it's a good idea to lose globally in the economy, and that this somehow magically means labor will IMPROVE in the U.S., that wouldn't make sense would it?
    If every competitor in the marketplace is helping raise the living standards of these other nations by utilizing their far less expensive labor and very high numbers of technically trained candidates (we prefer liberal arts in the U.S,. and wonder why we import so many tech jobs, dur), you will not compete with them if you don't either do likewise, or find some earth shattering innovation AND are able to keep it secret, to compete.
    Else, you lose, and you are then unemployed and all your employees are unemployed and the business is sucked up by a foreign entity.

    The notion that foreign labor is desirable because they make fewer demands is absurd when compared to the real reasons and real risks.

    You have a choice. Don't compete globally, or compete. Your choice. I personally don't like to lose.

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