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    Re: UN Human Rights Council says Syria gas attack videos, photos fake

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    You do that, not eco.

    What eco posted was something that the UN has officially documented. You have news reports, not based upon published UN documentation.
    Ben, I have to say that if the vote was brought up tomorrow in the UN regarding whether or not the US should exist, the vote might be close. Consider that before you give them holy status.

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    Re: UN Human Rights Council says Syria gas attack videos, photos fake

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Ben, I have to say that if the vote was brought up tomorrow in the UN regarding whether or not the US should exist, the vote might be close. Consider that before you give them holy status.
    So the organisation that's validating the American administrations view of the conflict would maybe vote that nation into non existence?

    So no such thing as evidence exists. Why are we here on this forum regardless of the topic? We're just throwing BS at eachother.

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    Re: UN Human Rights Council says Syria gas attack videos, photos fake

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    So you accept that 7:1 civilian massacres have been conducted by Assad and not the rebels? How do you rationalise that with the narrative that Assad is a necessary evil?


    (CNN) -- The Syrian war has never been a simple fight between good rebels and evil government forces, and the United Nations has said so several times in the past.
    But this week, U.N. investigators released a particularly detailed and horrific report that slams both sides, accusing rebels fighting to oust President Bashar al-Assad of murder, rape, torture and forced disappearances.

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    Re: UN Human Rights Council says Syria gas attack videos, photos fake

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    (CNN) -- The Syrian war has never been a simple fight between good rebels and evil government forces, and the United Nations has said so several times in the past.
    But this week, U.N. investigators released a particularly detailed and horrific report that slams both sides, accusing rebels fighting to oust President Bashar al-Assad of murder, rape, torture and forced disappearances.
    You always struggle to provide a source. Go ahead.

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    Re: UN Human Rights Council says Syria gas attack videos, photos fake

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    So you accept that 7:1 civilian massacres have been conducted by Assad and not the rebels? How do you rationalise that with the narrative that Assad is a necessary evil?


    (CNN) -- The Syrian war has never been a simple fight between good rebels and evil government forces, and the United Nations has said so several times in the past.
    But this week, U.N. investigators released a particularly detailed and horrific report that slams both sides, accusing rebels fighting to oust President Bashar al-Assad of murder, rape, torture and forced disappearances.


    This is why the US is and has been for sometime WRONG to support the rebels. We know their not going to support president Assad, that's a given.

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    Re: UN Human Rights Council says Syria gas attack videos, photos fake

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    How do you know Assads forces always do that? As far as I recall some of the boys originally clothed in those uniforms refused orders to kill civilians and set up the FSA.
    There's all kinds of reports. How do you differentiate between those that are true, and those that aren't? As an average American, I don't have a way, but if you have some special decoder, I'd love to have one like it. As it is, I'm left to make a judgement, and my judgement is that we'd best stay out of it now. If there's a way to stop the chemical weapons, great. Go for it. But, our time for a positive outcome is long gone, I'm afraid. The rebel movement is hopelessly compromised, and Assad is firmly in the Russo/Iranian camp.

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    Re: UN Human Rights Council says Syria gas attack videos, photos fake

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    You always struggle to provide a source. Go ahead.
    It's in the post you quoted. I ALWAYS provide sources, you just mostly don't like them.

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    Re: UN Human Rights Council says Syria gas attack videos, photos fake

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    There's all kinds of reports. How do you differentiate between those that are true, and those that aren't? As an average American, I don't have a way, but if you have some special decoder, I'd love to have one like it. As it is, I'm left to make a judgement, and my judgement is that we'd best stay out of it now. If there's a way to stop the chemical weapons, great. Go for it. But, our time for a positive outcome is long gone, I'm afraid. The rebel movement is hopelessly compromised, and Assad is firmly in the Russo/Iranian camp.
    Whether you have interest or not in the subject is irrelevant. You have basically claimed that on any topic we should disregard sources and just have at it, whether it involves personal involvement or not.

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    Re: UN Human Rights Council says Syria gas attack videos, photos fake

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It's in the post you quoted. I ALWAYS provide sources, you just mostly don't like them.
    One "links" to the source in standard internet discussion.

    I had to copy and paste your post into Google and discover that there's no mention of comparative scale of war crimes. Most conflicts involve war crimes, and the official UN report of massacres in this conflict show a stark contrast between Assad's use of such and the rebels. We all know who fired the first shot as well.

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    Re: UN Human Rights Council says Syria gas attack videos, photos fake

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    So the organisation that's validating the American administrations view of the conflict would maybe vote that nation into non existence?

    So no such thing as evidence exists. Why are we here on this forum regardless of the topic? We're just throwing BS at eachother.
    I have no faith in any of the evidence. Bad things have happened on all sides, and the politics has trumped all that may be real. I don't know. I do know that enough of that has happened that I'm unwilling to put our forces on the line for one side or the other. Our military is worth more than that, and our values, such as they are, are worth more than that too. I'd like to think, as would many, that we aren't stuck in the mentality of our thug being better than their thug.

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