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    Re: Obama : I Might Lose Congressional Vote on Syria....

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good afternoon, Pero.

    Will there still be a vote, since the international community thinks Putin's suggestion is a good idea? No bombing of Syria, causing even more chaos than already exists; chemical weapons are removed from Syria; rebels continuing to kill everyone they don't agree with, which seems to be normal for them; and Syria continues in their internal religious war, which also seems normal for that part of the world; and Assad seems to have a 70% approval rating from his people, according to news reports. What's the downside?
    You tell me, there is no downside if Assad goes along as I see it. This seems to be a case of no matter what we do will be wrong. That is in the long term. Doing nothing is probably the best thing we can do at the moment.
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    Re: Obama : I Might Lose Congressional Vote on Syria....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' Mags .....yeah I know. Plus Obama says he has had ongoing talks with Putin. Plus that he has instructed John Kerry to talk to the Russians directly. That these talks have been going on for some time.
    I am a bit confused.

    If Obama is talking to the boss, why would Kerry be talking to employees?

    Can't the boss get things done?

    That is like having a problem in a resturant and while your wife asks the manager about his family, you tell the buss boy about the problem.

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    Re: Obama : I Might Lose Congressional Vote on Syria....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I still think the President's chances in the senate is only 50-50 and as I see it, no way will the house go along. If the congress shoots him down along with the mood of the country being overwhelming against any strike against Syria, I would advise against. If he goes against congress, his approval rating may fall into the 30 percent range. That might make anything he tries to do from now on irrelavent.
    I think I saw a report yesterday that Reid won't call for a vote in the Senate.

    What happens if Congress never votes on this?

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    Re: Obama : I Might Lose Congressional Vote on Syria....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    You tell me, there is no downside if Assad goes along as I see it. This seems to be a case of no matter what we do will be wrong. That is in the long term. Doing nothing is probably the best thing we can do at the moment.
    As of this morning's news, Assad has agreed. Now what, other than the rebels have been given time to hide as many chemical weapons, for future use, as they can. We'd be wise to stay out of this quagmire, IMO.

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    Re: Obama : I Might Lose Congressional Vote on Syria....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I think I saw a report yesterday that Reid won't call for a vote in the Senate.

    What happens if Congress never votes on this?
    Interesting question and the truth is I don't know. Hopefully Putin is successful and that alleviates any need for a strike and all this becomes a lot of talk over something that doesn't happen. Something that held the number one spot in the news for a couple of weeks and then totally disappears. At least I hope so.
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    Re: Obama : I Might Lose Congressional Vote on Syria....

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    As of this morning's news, Assad has agreed. Now what, other than the rebels have been given time to hide as many chemical weapons, for future use, as they can. We'd be wise to stay out of this quagmire, IMO.
    Amen to that. I'm with you 100%
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    Re: Obama : I Might Lose Congressional Vote on Syria....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I am a bit confused.

    If Obama is talking to the boss, why would Kerry be talking to employees?

    Can't the boss get things done?

    That is like having a problem in a resturant and while your wife asks the manager about his family, you tell the buss boy about the problem.
    Heya Mason. Well truthfully Right now that's all they do is talk. Plus they can't seem to remember what they were saying out of their mouths less than a month ago. Especially on how well lines of communication were open......with Putin and Russia.

    Which says nothing about Obama ignoring Ban Ki Moon at the time.

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    Re: Obama : I Might Lose Congressional Vote on Syria....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Interesting question and the truth is I don't know. Hopefully Putin is successful and that alleviates any need for a strike and all this becomes a lot of talk over something that doesn't happen. Something that held the number one spot in the news for a couple of weeks and then totally disappears. At least I hope so.
    I don't think this could disappear completely as Obama has shown he is not capable of being a leader. This could affect the next Democratic nominee.

    Who wants another weak President?

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    Re: Obama : I Might Lose Congressional Vote on Syria....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I think I saw a report yesterday that Reid won't call for a vote in the Senate.

    What happens if Congress never votes on this?
    Yep, I got up in post 16 of this thread Mason.

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    Re: Obama : I Might Lose Congressional Vote on Syria....

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Now, now CJ. People need to cut him some slack, since he is still in the process of "evolving." The ironic thing about Syria is that something like 90% of the people in this country, on both sides of the aisle, said and hollered NO to invading Syria until the truth was known! Could this mean that people are becoming more discriminating in discerning what is nonsence, and that some things are just not believable, no matter what the frenzied hype is? I wonder...
    Now, now Lady P. You're confusing evolving with just sitting there and rotating. Perhaps Valerie's on vacation and Barry hasn't yet had his mind made up for him.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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