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    re: Senators who voted for Syria strike got more defense contractor dough [W:14]

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    I have determined that his purpose here has nothing to do with debate, and all to do with flaming and trolling Republicans and conservatives... period.

    Never seen him add anything to a conversation at all. Maybe I'm wrong.
    Nope, you're not wrong.

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    re: Senators who voted for Syria strike got more defense contractor dough [W:14]

    I've been saying it for some time now, the military should not be an extension of corporate welfare

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    re: Senators who voted for Syria strike got more defense contractor dough [W:14]

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Kind of ironic hearing conservative complain about corporate influence in politics. Almost disingenuous.
    It makes me wonder where they would be had mittens won the election and was pushing for the defense contractors profits at the expense of american lives. This syria situation was most likely to be present for either of them, and I have no doubt we would be fighting against an all out invasion of syria with mittens in charge. We would not be hearing any of the reality that defense contractors were bribing congress. I do not doubt there would be a few dems switching sides also. At least here we seem to still have some Obama hate pushing back on the bribes. This really seems to shine a light on republicans who give lip service to hating Obama to please the racist back home, but when it really counts they buddy up to him closer than Chris Christie looking for disaster relief. It will be really funny in 2016 when they lambaste christie for his Obama ass kissing with the crap still on their noses from the warmongering ass kissing.

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    Re: Senators who voted for Syria strike got more defense contractor dough [W:14]

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    The money isn't the prime factor here, IMHO. To me, it's two primary factors in that particular committee's vote: 1) loyalty to the President, or 2) NeoCon Hawks being NoeCon Hawks. Beyond that, nothing like reason, justification, humanitarian concern, morals or ethics had anything to do with it.

    They either wanted to blindly support their guy, or just blow something up. One of the two.
    At least there is some question this time. There was barely even mention about the reality the war with Iraq was actually fighting for the people who attacked the US. One of the reasons they were so mad at us was because we stood by and watched Saddam gas them after giving him the go ahead and location to drop chemical weapons we hate so much. The connection to the people who did 9/11 was that saddam actually kept them out of Iraq and killed them when he found them because they were his enemies. At leqast here we see the information that the rebels are associated with many extremist terrorist groups,. and that there really are no good guys to support. The republicans did not care to share any of this truth back in the early 2000s and the dems gave really pathetic objections with no education of the populace as to the crazy that was going on. I have to say much of the opposition to Obama is the rabid haters who i appreciate their effort, but there is no doubt if this was mittens we would see those people pushing for more than just some missile strikes.

    It is great they showed up, and perhaps their support will help stop this idiocy, but they are not reliable when it comes to doing the right thing.

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    Re: Senators who voted for Syria strike got more defense contractor dough [W:14]

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    The money isn't the prime factor here, IMHO. To me, it's two primary factors in that particular committee's vote: 1) loyalty to the President, or 2) NeoCon Hawks being NoeCon Hawks. Beyond that, nothing like reason, justification, humanitarian concern, morals or ethics had anything to do with it.

    They either wanted to blindly support their guy, or just blow something up. One of the two.
    I hear ya Beau, but either way or both, none of that is sustainable to our republic, I thought that's the type of behaviour we reserve for "our enemies" you know the ones I hear about all the time on these boards like China, Russia, Iran even Syria.

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    Re: Senators who voted for Syria strike got more defense contractor dough [W:14]

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    So, what freedom are we protecting by allowing any corporation to effectively purchase influence? Shouldn't this be illegal?
    It is illegal for everyone BUT Congress. This is called "a bribe" to the rest of us, who would go to jail for such things. For congress however, it's just good business.

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    If this is what's on the table, it makes me wonder what else comes with the deal? Can you buy a war for just a million or two?
    That's 1 1/2 Tomahawk missiles worth, if they're going to bribe for votes, I'd hope they'd make it worth the effort. 250 mil. at least.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Senators who voted for Syria strike got more defense contractor dough [W:14]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It is illegal for everyone BUT Congress. This is called "a bribe" to the rest of us, who would go to jail for such things. For congress however, it's just good business.

    That's 1 1/2 Tomahawk missiles worth, if they're going to bribe for votes, I'd hope they'd make it worth the effort. 250 mil. at least.
    Yes, I think that was my point.

    They really need to prohibit these minor election bribes and just pay their representative in cash.

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    Re: Senators who voted for Syria strike got more defense contractor dough [W:14]

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Yes, I think that was my point.

    They really need to prohibit these minor election bribes and just pay their representative in cash.
    Prohibit? That's why these goons make a career out of politics... it's the grease that makes the wheel go round! Example: Raytheon makes Tomahawk missiles. Raytheon's missile division is based in Tuscon Arizona. Who's one of the big supporters of punishing Syria right now from Arizona? John McCain. I'm happy to report Raul Grijalva the House Democrat 3rd district is still against going into Syria.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Senators who voted for Syria strike got more defense contractor dough [W:14]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Prohibit? That's why these goons make a career out of politics... it's the grease that makes the wheel go round! Example: Raytheon makes Tomahawk missiles. Raytheon's missile division is based in Tuscon Arizona. Who's one of the big supporters of punishing Syria right now from Arizona? John McCain. I'm happy to report Raul Grijalva the House Democrat 3rd district is still against going into Syria.
    Yes, of course. I'm being facetious. The only reason to go into politics is to make lots of money. Seems we should have a better strategy but....this is pretty much it.

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