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    Re: Syria welcomes Russia's offer to put its chemical weapons under Int'l control

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Kerry is a lying sack of crap who was anti-war until killing a bunch of little brown people furthered his career. Even if they turn over every last chemical weapon, we will still bomb the **** out of them.

    Well I suspect that eventuality as well. "REGIME CHANGE" is the US policy for Syria, has been for a long time.

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    Re: Syria welcomes Russia's offer to put its chemical weapons under Int'l control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Unfortunately that is exactly what the past few days have said to Americans. You can shoot, explode, blow up, knife, pummel, drown, strangulate tens of thousands of innocent people but dammit, once you use chems, we're going to get pissed off because Syria, you're not conforming to international "norms"! How dare you!

    Which is why these Syria war drums are just moronic.
    The point is that he has proven to have total disregard for civilian deaths. For years, there was a shadow of a doubt that allowed the slaughter. To do nothing now, because we did nothing before, is a bad idea.

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    Re: Syria welcomes Russia's offer to put its chemical weapons under Int'l control

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Those countries which have ratified the Rome Statutes do. The rebels, as the recognized government of Syria, could ratify those statutes and charge Assad.

    Did Assad not kill 10s of 1000s of civilians?
    Only morons would recognise the Islamic extremists (rebels) jihadists, that have attacked Christian churches as the Syrian government. Iran, Russia and China amongst many countries recognise president Assad as the legitimate government, its not your call.

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    Re: Syria welcomes Russia's offer to put its chemical weapons under Int'l control

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Only morons would recognise the Islamic extremists (rebels) jihadists, that have attacked Christian churches as the Syrian government. Iran, Russia and China amongst many countries recognise president Assad as the legitimate government, its not your call.
    I am the decider.

    "It's conceivable that, at the end of the day, I don't persuade a majority of the American people that it's the right thing to do," Obama said in response to a question from ABC News during a solo press conference at the conclusion of the G20 summit in St. Petersburg, Russia.

    But, Obama said, members of Congress need to consider the lessons of World War II and their own consciences and vote 'yes' to authorize the use of force, even if it means going against the opinion of the majority of their constituents.

    "Each member of Congress is going to have to decide if [they] think it's the right thing to do for America's national security and the world's national security," Obama said. "Ultimately, you listen to your constituents, but you've got to make some decisions about what you believe is right for America."
    President Obama Calls for Conscience Vote On Syria, Even If Public Opposed - ABC News


    Who would have thought Obama would be making such an argument to go to war. Is he a neocon? Is he a hawk.

    Is invoking WWII a Godwin?

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    Re: Syria welcomes Russia's offer to put its chemical weapons under Int'l control

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Those countries which have ratified the Rome Statutes do. The rebels, as the recognized government of Syria, could ratify those statutes and charge Assad.

    Did Assad not kill 10s of 1000s of civilians?

    The only thing the rebels seem united on is their hatred for Assad. Beyond that they don't seem united on who or what they want to replace him. Some rebels are purely out for revenge. Others are sects fighting Sunni vs Shiite. Others are jiiahdi sympathetic to Al Qaeda. Others are connected to activists in the UK. Others are Kurds trying to have their own country. Others are just civilians defending themselves from Assad and the rebels. Some rebel factions have already staked out territorities and have their own governments set up and operating.

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    Re: Syria welcomes Russia's offer to put its chemical weapons under Int'l control

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I am the decider.


    President Obama Calls for Conscience Vote On Syria, Even If Public Opposed - ABC News


    Who would have thought Obama would be making such an argument to go to war. Is he a neocon? Is he a hawk.

    Is invoking WWII a Godwin?
    I do not appreciate Obama's position one bit.

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    Re: Syria welcomes Russia's offer to put its chemical weapons under Int'l control

    Early Sunday morning John Kerry, stated that president Assad could avoid a US military strike by turning over his chemical weapons to the international community and working with the Russians, president Assad has agreed to do just that! Now, the only thing we should be discussing going forward is when and how will these weapons be secured and removed from Syria? NO, further talk of US military action would be appropriate. But, it appears we are getting a lack lustre response from the White House on this already.

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    Re: Syria welcomes Russia's offer to put its chemical weapons under Int'l control

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well I suspect that eventuality as well. "REGIME CHANGE" is the US policy for Syria, has been for a long time.
    At what cost? How many US lives?

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    Re: Syria welcomes Russia's offer to put its chemical weapons under Int'l control

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    At what cost? How many US lives?
    Well I don't know Crue that's a good question. I think one thing we can count on is that it will cost more and take longer than any estimates they tell us, isn't it always?

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    Re: Syria welcomes Russia's offer to put its chemical weapons under Int'l control

    This if fortunate for Obama in one respect. He was pushing an unpopular idea and a failed ideology. Now he has an out. There will be no vote, therefore no rebuke in Congress. Maybe they will even let him keep his peace prize.

    On the other hand, the US has ceded it's power in the Middle East to Russia and forfeited it's reputation as the worlds last super power. Internationally we are weak and no longer a reliable ally and feared foe. We are truly the paper tiger they talked about in the 70's.

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