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    PKK halts withdrawal of Kurdish rebels from Turkey

    PKK halts withdrawal of Kurdish rebels from Turkey | News | DW.DE | 09.09.2013

    Kurdish rebels have halted withdrawing fighters from Turkey. Though no deadline had existed, under a ceasefire agreed in March the withdrawal is key to a long-term peace plan.
    Turkey 'rejects democratic reforms'
    In the statement, the PKK also accused the government of failing to adopt a package of democratic reforms designed to reinforce the rights of the Kurdish minority in Turkey - an estimated 15 million people. In return for withdrawing its estimated 2,500 fighters in Turkey, the PKK has demanded amendments to the penal code and electoral laws as well as the right to education in the Kurdish language and a form of regional autonomy.
    Read the article at the top for more info.

    So basically the kurds are trying to keep up their side of the agreement to end the bloodshed but the turks aren't.
    My thoughts.
    Yes, the kurds should have the right to get an education in the kurdish language. But unless Turkey's constitution allows for federalization of some kind, making demands of regional autonomy is absurd.
    As for the rest of the demands, I don't know the specifics of each but I am sure that in order to end the bloodshed, compromises on both sides need to be made.

    Turkey also receives development aid from the EU in value of over 200mil euros a year. I think these packages should stop until the civil right violations of kurdish ethnics stops.

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    Re: PKK halts withdrawal of Kurdish rebels from Turkey

    calling terrorists rebel is not friendly.

    they are terrorists who get only % 7 0r 8 of all votes in every election

    they dont represent all kurds

    there is only one official language in this country but every minority can learn their mother language in their own schools

    but kurds are not regarded as a minority although they can speak their language and take kurdish classes in schools in the southeast

    do you know why ?

    all the west wants to ignore the lausanne treaty which doesnt recognize teh kurds as a minority

    you know which civilized countries signed it

    but they want to ignore it

    UK and USA's biggest dream will come true soon after syria turkey war starts

    have a good day
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    Re: PKK halts withdrawal of Kurdish rebels from Turkey

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    calling terrorists rebel is not friendly.

    they are terrorists who get only % 7 0r 8 of all votes in every election

    they dont represent all kurds

    there is only one official language in this country but every minority can learn their mother language in their own schools

    but kurds are not regarded as a minority although they can speak their language and take kurdish classes in schools in the southeast

    do you know why ?

    all the west wants to ignore the lausanne treaty which doesnt recognize teh kurds as a minority

    you know which civilized countries signed it

    but they want to ignore it

    UK and USA's biggest dream will come true soon after syria turkey war starts

    have a good day
    In re: Bolded statements.


    What article of the treaty covers this specific circumstance?

    U.K. and U.S.A. happy? I think not; both countries have treaty/defense pacts with Turkey which would entail them defending Turkey.

    Have a great day, Medusa

    Thom Paine

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    Re: PKK halts withdrawal of Kurdish rebels from Turkey

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    In re: Bolded statements.


    What article of the treaty covers this specific circumstance?

    U.K. and U.S.A. happy? I think not; both countries have treaty/defense pacts with Turkey which would entail them defending Turkey.

    Have a great day, Medusa

    Thom Paine

    imperialism will defend us ?

    hehe .)




    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    calling terrorists rebel is not friendly.

    they are terrorists who get only % 7 0r 8 of all votes in every election

    they dont represent all kurds

    there is only one official language in this country but every minority can learn their mother language in their own schools

    but kurds are not regarded as a minority although they can speak their language and take kurdish classes in schools in the southeast

    do you know why ?

    all the west wants to ignore the lausanne treaty which doesnt recognize teh kurds as a minority

    you know which civilized countries signed it

    but they want to ignore it

    UK and USA's biggest dream will come true soon after syria turkey war starts

    have a good day
    l suggest you read the bolded part of the post
    "Sovereignty is not given, it is taken." ATATÜRK

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    Re: PKK halts withdrawal of Kurdish rebels from Turkey

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    calling terrorists rebel is not friendly.

    they are terrorists who get only % 7 0r 8 of all votes in every election

    they dont represent all kurds

    there is only one official language in this country but every minority can learn their mother language in their own schools

    but kurds are not regarded as a minority although they can speak their language and take kurdish classes in schools in the southeast

    do you know why ?

    all the west wants to ignore the lausanne treaty which doesnt recognize teh kurds as a minority

    you know which civilized countries signed it

    but they want to ignore it

    UK and USA's biggest dream will come true soon after syria turkey war starts

    have a good day
    This is a strawman. Furthermore the US never ratified that treaty. So I call bull**** on both counts.
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    Re: PKK halts withdrawal of Kurdish rebels from Turkey

    If so, this is going to somewhat frustrate Turkey's ability to project power confidently into the Caucasus and down into the Levant. Interesting.

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