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    Re: Conn. lawmakers consider e-cigarette ban

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    No one is trying to ban them, nor am I advocating that they should.

    I don't know what the motivation for it is. My point is very simple: there is no evidence determining what the safety threshold is for e-cigs, so it's hard to argue for them.
    It's water vapor mixed with nicotine..

    That's all it is....

    There is no "wondering" about anything.....

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    Re: Conn. lawmakers consider e-cigarette ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    It's water vapor mixed with nicotine..

    That's all it is....

    There is no "wondering" about anything.....
    Dude, you're wrong. You have no clue what you're talking about. Read the thread. Including the liar of Cherryvape's website.

    The flavoring has dozens of ingredients in it, and there are also the two carriers, which are glycerin products, one of which is untested for inhalation.

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    Re: Conn. lawmakers consider e-cigarette ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    To say "basically water vapor" when there is no water vapor is a mis-leading characterization of e-cigs at best. It implies that the vapor is largely steam.
    If you have to use a weasel words defense of someone, you should realize that there's an attempt to mis-inform going on.
    #shadesofRumsfeld
    It is water vapor infused with nicotine....

    There is nothing more to it than that....

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    Re: Conn. lawmakers consider e-cigarette ban

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Dude, you're wrong. You have no clue what you're talking about. Read the thread. Including the liar of Cherryvape's website.

    The flavoring has dozens of ingredients in it, and there are also the two carriers, which are glycerin products, one of which is untested for inhalation.
    You do realize the "flavoring" is natural based except for non-menthol??

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    Re: Conn. lawmakers consider e-cigarette ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You do realize the "flavoring" is natural based except for non-menthol??
    Wow. You believe that?

    I'm sorry, dude. But I can't do anything with you. The amount of catch-up I'd have to do is just way more than I'm willing to spend on some guy on the internet.

    But for starters...

    1. That is... laughably false.

    2. Even if it were true, just because something is "natural" doesn't make it safe in general, or in specific applications.

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    Re: Conn. lawmakers consider e-cigarette ban

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Wow. You believe that?

    I'm sorry, dude. But I can't do anything with you. The amount of catch-up I'd have to do is just way more than I'm willing to spend on some guy on the internet.

    But for starters...

    1. That is... laughably false.

    2. Even if it were true, just because something is "natural" doesn't make it safe in general, or in specific applications.
    Really?

    What do you know about Propylene Glycol?

    Do you associate it with antifreeze or food?? You do realize you probably eat it everyday...

    Lets start there...

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    Re: Conn. lawmakers consider e-cigarette ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Really?

    What do you know about Propylene Glycol?

    Do you associate it with antifreeze or food?? You do realize you probably eat it everyday...

    Lets start there...
    A lot more than you do, I'm sure.

    Yes, I'm aware of a dozen different meds it's in, foods, fog machines, etc.

    Are you aware there are about 100 other ingredients in your typical bottle of e-juice?

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    Re: Conn. lawmakers consider e-cigarette ban

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    A lot more than you do, I'm sure.

    Yes, I'm aware of a dozen different meds it's in, foods, fog machines, etc.

    Are you aware there are about 100 other ingredients in your typical bottle of e-juice?
    No my E-juice is Vegetable Glycerin (which is good for you), Propylene Glycol (preservative) and natural flavors...

    There is more Propylene Glycol in a box of little debbies than an ounce of e-cig oil.. Yet people have no problem eating the ****....

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    Re: Conn. lawmakers consider e-cigarette ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    No my E-juice is Vegetable Glycerin (which is good for you), Propylene Glycol (preservative) and natural flavors...
    Oh, it is, is it? For your lungs? Study, please. Or do you just believe whatever the hell they tell you?

    And like I said, that flavoring has dozens of things in it. You'd be amazed how processed something can be and still be called "natural." As long as its base components could theoretically exist in nature, they can call it natural.

    But besides that, it's irrelevant. Just because something is natural DOES NOT MEAN IT'S SAFE TO INHALE.

    Do you understand this concept?

    I really hope you never decide to go camping and just eat whatever the hell is around you. After all, it's "natural," so it must be safe, right?

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    Re: Conn. lawmakers consider e-cigarette ban

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Oh, it is, is it? For your lungs? Study, please. Or do you just believe whatever the hell they tell you?

    And like I said, that flavoring has dozens of things in it. You'd be amazed how processed something can be and still be called "natural." As long as its base components could theoretically exist in nature, they can call it natural.

    But besides that, it's irrelevant. Just because something is natural DOES NOT MEAN IT'S SAFE TO INHALE.

    Do you understand this concept?

    I really hope you never decide to go camping and just eat whatever the hell is around you. After all, it's "natural," so it must be safe, right?
    Do you understand the concept that I can put anything I want into my body??? lets call it motor oil for a ****ing second... If I want to smoke motor oil what business is it of yours??

    You'll sit there and eat twinkies all day with way more Propylene Glycol concentrate than my e-cigs but you're talking about "studies?"

    Once again tho - you don't know the first thing about Propylene Glycol considering you obviously associate it as industrial grade Propylene Glycol.... The difference between consumer grade PG and industrial grade PG is about the same as rubbing alcohol and expensive Vodka...

    Sorry to explain to you that just about every food product needs preservatives unless you buy the product fresh....

    Progressive amaze me - anti-preservative progressives want to ban guns.... So how are you going to ship the food to me without the preservatives if I cannot hunt for myself and kill my own food??

    I suppose that was a bit off topic to some extent but it makes sense here considering your concerns about individuals ingesting preservatives...

    And YES I understand some "natural flavors" aren't "natural" they're sugared down with minimal concentrate hence "natural."

    Regardless of any of this - that still doesn't change the fact that you have absolutely no ****ing right to tell me what I can and cannot ingest...

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