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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Nah, I am entirely skeptical about this.



    Stay skeptical.

    But after it happens, don't say that I didn't warn you.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Stay skeptical.

    But after it happens, don't say that I didn't warn you.
    I would not say that you did not warn me. No worries

    But for Kurdistan to happen, especially with Western support, would require backstabbing Turkiye as an ally. It cannot happen without Western support neither for Kurds would clash with Turks.

    Come to think of it Kurds are probably the sole native people who benefit in all these wars. In Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Turkiye. This last one should probably be very difficult if projects of Kurdistan are out there. Hence I am skeptical.
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    I would not say that you did not warn me. No worries

    But for Kurdistan to happen, especially with Western support, would require backstabbing Turkiye as an ally. It cannot happen without Western support neither for Kurds would clash with Turks.

    Come to think of it Kurds are probably the sole native people who benefit in all these wars. In Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Turkiye. This last one should probably be very difficult if projects of Kurdistan are out there.
    Hence I am skeptical.



    Stay skeptical.

    Never buy into the bull**** that a lot of people think came down from the mountain on stone slabs from heaven.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Let's clear something up.. those who work in the intel community are not partisan.
    They are lifers in that career. 27-year CIA veteran is not political and reaching briefer status is a status symbol (being a company man). Ray McGovern was critical on Iraq and critical on Syria for whatever reason. So political he and these he represents are not.

    It's only those who are politically appointed who are partisan and are the ones who are brought out on tv for the public to listen to. The information collected and given to those who are politically appointed are tailored to the admins position. So real intel is white washed with a story to fit the narrative of the day. John Brennan is a political appointee and has been for years. He is biggest asshat in the world and most powerful person in the world. He tells the President what the "truth" is.



    This is a total crock of bull****.

    Everything that has any connection to politics is partisan.

    And intelligence has a lot of connections to politics.

    Give us a frickin' break here.

    We didn't all just fall off of the turnip truck.
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Don't know what's true and what's not anymore. With any supposed intelligence coming from the White House. Under ANY president.

    To think we are either entitled to, or know, "the rest of the story," is arrogant and stupid almost beyond belief.

    But here's what I think: We've GOT to change what we're doing overall. It's not working. We are simply reacting. And, in this case, reacting in the worst possible way. Upping the ante, so to speak. It's not WORKING!!

    If I were President of the United States, I would want a sit-down with Syria's leadership. I would ask him to his face if his government was responsible for chemical attacks. If he said no, which I would expect him to do, I would ask him how he can guarantee it will never happen again. Or, if it does, what he thinks the world should do about it. Because it is UNACCEPTABLE.

    Then I would want a sit-down with rebel leadership and ask the same exact thing.

    Eye-to-eye, man-to-man. One last ditch effort to make sure it never happens again. "We are watching you. If it happens again? We will ask not one more question. We will act on our intelligence and carpet bombing of either side is a foregone conclusion."
    The only issue with that scenario...
    You gave both sides the information & warning, if one side wants to eliminate the other, all they have to do is plant chemical weapons where it looks like the other side did it and wait for the US to attack....oh wait, thats what seems to be happening now.
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Let's clear something up.. those who work in the intel community are not partisan. They are lifers in that career. 27-year CIA veteran is not political and reaching briefer status is a status symbol (being a company man). Ray McGovern was critical on Iraq and critical on Syria for whatever reason. So political he and these he represents are not.

    It's only those who are politically appointed who are partisan and are the ones who are brought out on tv for the public to listen to. The information collected and given to those who are politically appointed are tailored to the admins position. So real intel is white washed with a story to fit the narrative of the day. John Brennan is a political appointee and has been for years. He is biggest asshat in the world and most powerful person in the world. He tells the President what the "truth" is.
    Do you have anything to support that Mother Goose Nursery Rhyme?

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Having a clearance in the Navy is like having clearance to reading a newspaper. This guy had clearance that gave him access to all intel. He was giving White House briefings. That means it spanned everything. So he had clearance to everything. So he knows people who are still active and are hold top spots in those sections today.
    All the bolded words are past tense. If people that are still active are giving him this type of info, then they should be arrested and charged with treason.
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The title is misleading. These are former intelligence officials, with no access to intel and of questionable sanity.
    Actually, there is already a good amount of information questioning whether or not it was the Assad regime that launched the attack, from sources such as the AP.
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

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    It has been nearly a year since Obama assured us that those responsible for Benghazi would be brought to justice. The only thing for sure about anything federal: it will be very complicated, it will be very slow and it will be very, very expensive.


    One more thing: If the Executive Branch is involved, it will also be dishonest and very, very partisan.
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Actually, there is already a good amount of information questioning whether or not it was the Assad regime that launched the attack, from sources such as the AP.
    Read the article more closely. It claims that perhaps Assad was not the one to order it because there is no evidence leading to him directly.

    1. That's a stupid argument requiring impossible intel.
    2. It doesn't matter if he personally authorized it. Losing control of his military to the point of them using WMDs without his order is unacceptable.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Actually, there is already a good amount of information questioning whether or not it was the Assad regime that launched the attack, from sources such as the AP.

    True, and in the op it states that they are BOTH current and former intelligence officials

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