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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

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    You could be right.

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    We'll just have to wait and see how all of this turns out.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya SN .....I think we should stay out and let it break up into the 3 regions it is. Then take things from there.



    Believe it or not, that's almost exactly what I thought about Iraq.

    I believe that the main reason that didn't happen was because the USA didn't want to step on Turkey's toes. Turkey was afraid that this would ultimately lead to the Kurds in Iraq, Iran,Syria, and Turkey joining together to form a new nation - Kurdistan. It would have a population of 35-40 million people and would occupy about 400, 000 square kilometers.

    This could still happen, it's a very real possibility.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Believe it or not, that's almost exactly what I thought about Iraq.

    I believe that the main reason that didn't happen was because the USA didn't want to step on Turkey's toes. Turkey was afraid that this would ultimately lead to the Kurds in Iraq, Iran,Syria, and Turkey joining together to form a new nation - Kurdistan. It would have a population of 35-40 million people and would occupy about 400, 000 square kilometers.

    This could still happen, it's a very real possibility.
    Yep, especially with AQ and the Al Nusra chasing the Kurds out of Syria. Gain more territory through Iraq as it falls back into its sectarian divide. Either way.....the Shia now know time is also against them. Their numbers are being reduced dramatically. In all regions they dwell.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    The title is misleading. These are former intelligence officials, with no access to intel and of questionable sanity.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The title is misleading. These are former intelligence officials, with no access to intel and of questionable sanity.


    Wrong again! But no surprise. They are BOTH former and current.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wrong again! But no surprise. They are BOTH former and current.
    Read your OP article:

    a dozen former U.S. military and intelligence officials are telling President Obama that they are picking up information that undercuts the Official Story.


    Seriously, you posted the article... how could you not know it is 12 former intel and military officials making the statement?
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    At this point it's hard to say for certainty which side used the chemical weapons. I would also have to question just how much up to the minute info a (former) co-worker would have access to. And the way the GOP have been fighting everything Obama has done or tried to do, taking the word of those that worked for former Republican admins would be hard to do. With the Dems pointing fingers at the Reps, and the Reps pointing fingers at the Dems no one is to be beleaved. Personally I think we should let them fight it out among themselves and let Russia deal with it.
    Let's clear something up.. those who work in the intel community are not partisan. They are lifers in that career. 27-year CIA veteran is not political and reaching briefer status is a status symbol (being a company man). Ray McGovern was critical on Iraq and critical on Syria for whatever reason. So political he and these he represents are not.

    It's only those who are politically appointed who are partisan and are the ones who are brought out on tv for the public to listen to. The information collected and given to those who are politically appointed are tailored to the admins position. So real intel is white washed with a story to fit the narrative of the day. John Brennan is a political appointee and has been for years. He is biggest asshat in the world and most powerful person in the world. He tells the President what the "truth" is.
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    That's the point. Making statements of fact without all the info is in my opinion, silly. I tend to ignore people such as this.

    I retired from the U.S.Navy in 1996, up until about 3 years ago I had some good friends that were still in. We would talk every now and then, talk about the changes going on and about missions they had been on. But as a former sailor there were things that I didn't have the need nor clearance to know. Same with this guy.
    Having a clearance in the Navy is like having clearance to reading a newspaper. This guy had clearance that gave him access to all intel. He was giving White House briefings. That means it spanned everything. So he had clearance to everything. So he knows people who are still active and are hold top spots in those sections today.
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah he was.....also Germany joined in as the 11th of the G20 to back our play.

    European urge US to await UN report on Syria
    Associated Press – 18 mins ago



    European foreign ministers on Saturday endorsed a "clear and strong response" to a chemical weapons attack that strongly points to the Syrian government, but they urged the U.S. to delay possible military action until U.N. inspectors report their findings.

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, trying to make the Obama administration's case for a strike, thanked the European Union for a "strong statement about the need for accountability."

    Kerry said he would share his counterparts' concern with U.S. officials. A senior State Department official who attended Kerry's meeting with the ministers in Lithuania said Kerry made clear that the U.S. has not made any decision to wait.

    The official spoke on condition of anonymity to disclose details about the private meeting.

    Later, at a news conference in Paris with French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, Kerry said "this is not the time to be silent spectators to slaughter" and that "this is not the time to allow a dictator unfettered use of some of the heinous weapons on earth."

    Fabius said that "punishment is not at odds with a political solution. ... Bashar Assad will not participate in any negotiation as long as he sees himself as invincible.".....snip~

    European urge US to await UN report on Syria
    It sounds to me that the EU supporting US but asking the inspectors data first is a typical move. Go for it, we support you, but wait inspectors first. Inspectors claim that Assad did not used the gas and the EU has a clear face that it supported US nevertheless, but under the "new" light that Assad did not use gas, well they can respond "tough luck USA."
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Believe it or not, that's almost exactly what I thought about Iraq.

    I believe that the main reason that didn't happen was because the USA didn't want to step on Turkey's toes. Turkey was afraid that this would ultimately lead to the Kurds in Iraq, Iran,Syria, and Turkey joining together to form a new nation - Kurdistan. It would have a population of 35-40 million people and would occupy about 400, 000 square kilometers.

    This could still happen, it's a very real possibility.
    Nah, I am entirely skeptical about this.
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