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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I doubt that Assad isn't sweating it out, but he does have strong backing that Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi didn't!
    He knows its borrowed time.....he can't take on the World.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    He knows its borrowed time.....he can't take on the World.
    He doesn't have the whole world against him. But I did say, I think, that he doesn't think himself invincible as someone else suggested, but is likely sweating it.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    At this point it's hard to say for certainty which side used the chemical weapons. I would also have to question just how much up to the minute info a (former) co-worker would have access to. And the way the GOP have been fighting everything Obama has done or tried to do, taking the word of those that worked for former Republican admins would be hard to do. With the Dems pointing fingers at the Reps, and the Reps pointing fingers at the Dems no one is to be beleaved. Personally I think we should let them fight it out among themselves and let Russia deal with it.



    That sounds like a pretty good idea except for one thing: It provides no immediate relief for the totally innocent Syrian men , women and children who have been and are being killed by the Syrian government..

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    He knows its borrowed time.....he can't take on the World.
    Neoconservatives Planned Regime Change Throughout the Middle East and North Africa 20 Years Ago

    General Wesley Clark ... said the aim of this plot [to "destroy the governments in ... Iraq, ... Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran”] was this: “They wanted us to destabilize the Middle East, turn it upside down, make it under our control.” He then recounted a conversation he had had ten years earlier with Paul Wolfowitz — back in 1991 — in which the then-number-3-Pentagon-official, after criticizing Bush 41 for not toppling Saddam, told Clark: “But one thing we did learn [from the Persian Gulf War] is that we can use our military in the region – in the Middle East – and the Soviets won’t stop us. And we’ve got about 5 or 10 years to clean up those old Soviet regimes – Syria, Iran [sic], Iraq – before the next great superpower comes on to challenge us.” Clark said he was shocked by Wolfowitz’s desires because, as Clark put it: “the purpose of the military is to start wars and change governments? It’s not to deter conflicts?”

    Notice he said they thought Russia wouldn't try to stop us!!!!


    http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...rica-20-year-0
    Last edited by Montecresto; 09-07-13 at 04:46 PM.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    He doesn't have the whole world against him. But I did say, I think, that he doesn't think himself invincible as someone else suggested, but is likely sweating it.
    Well I meant most who are anybody. All he can do now is play to the camera with the dead that's come out in the strikes. As it clear we are now going to change the balance of things and give the rebels the favor of winning. Regime Change.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    At this point it's hard to say for certainty which side used the chemical weapons. I would also have to question just how much up to the minute info a (former) co-worker would have access to. And the way the GOP have been fighting everything Obama has done or tried to do, taking the word of those that worked for former Republican admins would be hard to do. With the Dems pointing fingers at the Reps, and the Reps pointing fingers at the Dems no one is to be beleaved. Personally I think we should let them fight it out among themselves and let Russia deal with it.



    Let's see, if I'm counting this right, it is Russia's turn to waste their time and treasure on a lost cause in the Middle East. We need to stand back and let it happen.

    After Russia gets sick of kicking their collective ass, we can have our turn when it comes up again.
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Don't know what's true and what's not anymore. With any supposed intelligence coming from the White House. Under ANY president.

    To think we are either entitled to, or know, "the rest of the story," is arrogant and stupid almost beyond belief.

    But here's what I think: We've GOT to change what we're doing overall. It's not working. We are simply reacting. And, in this case, reacting in the worst possible way. Upping the ante, so to speak. It's not WORKING!!

    If I were President of the United States, I would want a sit-down with Syria's leadership. I would ask him to his face if his government was responsible for chemical attacks. If he said no, which I would expect him to do, I would ask him how he can guarantee it will never happen again. Or, if it does, what he thinks the world should do about it. Because it is UNACCEPTABLE.

    Then I would want a sit-down with rebel leadership and ask the same exact thing.

    Eye-to-eye, man-to-man. One last ditch effort to make sure it never happens again. "We are watching you. If it happens again? We will ask not one more question. We will act on our intelligence and carpet bombing of either side is a foregone conclusion."


    As I understand this mess, the Syrian citizens rose up and rebeled against the government. That's two sides. The Russians and the Iranians have weighted in with weapons and strategic support. Two more. Hezbollah and Al Qaeda are in there and fighting. Two more. So, we have at least six sides to deal with. I wouldn't be at all surprised if elements of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Libyan Rebels are also there.

    They're making Arab sausage over there and there is no right and no wrong. There is only self interest, misery, death and a lost chance for another country's people.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well I meant most who are anybody. All he can do now is play to the camera with the dead that's come out in the strikes. As it clear we are now going to change the balance of things and give the rebels the favor of winning. Regime Change.



    I will just repeat what I have said about the Syrian civil war several times: No matter which side 'wins' it won't be good for the USA, the region, or the Syrian people.It will end up like Iraq, only worse because Syria has a lot more minority groups. It will be a huge human rights disaster. Sorry, but that's the way that it looks to me and I don't see how any force on this planet can change that.

    A lot of people in Syria made the mistake of being born in the wrong neighborhood.
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I will just repeat what I have said about the Syrian civil war several times: No matter which side 'wins' it won't be good for the USA, the region, or the Syrian people.It will end up like Iraq, only worse because Syria has a lot more minority groups. It will be a huge human rights disaster. Sorry, but that's the way that it looks to me and I don't see how any force on this planet can change that.
    Heya SN .....I think we should stay out and let it break up into the 3 regions it is. Then take things from there.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    But Obama would never ever lie to us? How can this possibly be true?

    These folks likely would assert that Benghazi was not about protestig a movie either - they are the liars.



    You could be right.

    But on the other hand, you could be wrong.

    We'll just have to wait and see how all of this turns out.

    I predict that no one will be happy when this is all over with.

    I certainly don't expect that I will be happy.

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