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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    Having not seen the evidence myself I would say there's a 50/50 chance that one side or the other used these chemicals. Which side has yet to be determined. I just find it hard to believe someones blog. Most people with blogs have an agenda, I chose to make my own decisions based on facts, not what someone's blog tells me to believe.
    That is true, but the difference is that people with blogs are quite open about their biases rather than many in the MSM which claim 'journalistic objectivity' which is a myth. (The Corbett Report | Episode 265 – The Myth of Journalistic Objectivity)
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    That is true, but the difference is that people with blogs are quite open about their biases rather than many in the MSM which claim 'journalistic objectivity' which is a myth. (The Corbett Report | Episode 265 – The Myth of Journalistic Objectivity)
    Just because you see it on TV or read it on the internet or hear it on the radio don't make it true.
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The point being that there are more people that agree with them than you. Including the majority of Americans that aren't buying it, nor should they. There simply is no logic (oh and how many times does it have to be mentioned, no evidence) that president Assad used chemical weapons on his civilians.
    There's no logic in the rebs gassing civilians, either.

    There's no credibility to the notions so far presented suggesting that there's no way that Assad wouldn't use chemical weapons. Sure, he might be winning the war, but the war isn't over, therefore, he hasn't won it. Bringing the war to a quicker and more decisive end makes perfect sense.
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    "SEEMS to indicate strong evidence" is weak language coming out of that body. I see Kerry was over there twisting arms.
    Yeah he was.....also Germany joined in as the 11th of the G20 to back our play.

    European urge US to await UN report on Syria
    Associated Press 18 mins ago



    European foreign ministers on Saturday endorsed a "clear and strong response" to a chemical weapons attack that strongly points to the Syrian government, but they urged the U.S. to delay possible military action until U.N. inspectors report their findings.

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, trying to make the Obama administration's case for a strike, thanked the European Union for a "strong statement about the need for accountability."

    Kerry said he would share his counterparts' concern with U.S. officials. A senior State Department official who attended Kerry's meeting with the ministers in Lithuania said Kerry made clear that the U.S. has not made any decision to wait.

    The official spoke on condition of anonymity to disclose details about the private meeting.

    Later, at a news conference in Paris with French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, Kerry said "this is not the time to be silent spectators to slaughter" and that "this is not the time to allow a dictator unfettered use of some of the heinous weapons on earth."

    Fabius said that "punishment is not at odds with a political solution. ... Bashar Assad will not participate in any negotiation as long as he sees himself as invincible.".....snip~

    European urge US to await UN report on Syria

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    Just because you see it on TV or read it on the internet or hear it on the radio don't make it true.
    Of course, but that was not my point.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah he was.....also Germany joined in as the 11th of the G20 to back our play.

    European urge US to await UN report on Syria
    Associated Press – 18 mins ago



    European foreign ministers on Saturday endorsed a "clear and strong response" to a chemical weapons attack that strongly points to the Syrian government, but they urged the U.S. to delay possible military action until U.N. inspectors report their findings.

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, trying to make the Obama administration's case for a strike, thanked the European Union for a "strong statement about the need for accountability."

    Kerry said he would share his counterparts' concern with U.S. officials. A senior State Department official who attended Kerry's meeting with the ministers in Lithuania said Kerry made clear that the U.S. has not made any decision to wait.

    The official spoke on condition of anonymity to disclose details about the private meeting.

    Later, at a news conference in Paris with French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, Kerry said "this is not the time to be silent spectators to slaughter" and that "this is not the time to allow a dictator unfettered use of some of the heinous weapons on earth."

    Fabius said that "punishment is not at odds with a political solution. ... Bashar Assad will not participate in any negotiation as long as he sees himself as invincible.".....snip~

    European urge US to await UN report on Syria
    The idea that Assad believes himself invincible in the face of the might, power and influence of the United States of America is ludicrous.
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The idea that Assad believes himself invincible in the face of the might, power and influence of the United States of America is ludicrous.
    I see you caught that too eh Mags. Sounds like some in the West are a bit upset that their Boyz. (the Rebels) were getting it taken to them, and that they feel like Assad just keeps rubbing their faces in it. Since he wouldn't do what Obama said and step down.

    So truly that was the first line Assad stepped over of an Obama line. Assad <<<<<Nah.....I don't think so.

    So the West helped aid the Saud and Qataris who all backed the Rebels thinking they will mop up Assad like they did Gadhafi.....Assad. <<<<<Nah I don't think so. I am fighting terrorists. Uhoo I'm Still Here.

    Then the UN coming out with the Press and saying the Rebels aren't such good guys.....Assad. I told you so! Rebels are killing unarmed civilians, Christians, and are massacring prisoners who have surrendered. In Yo Face.


    So yep the US and all think Assad thinks he is invincible.

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I see you caught that too eh Mags. Sounds like some in the West are a bit upset that their Boyz. (the Rebels) were getting it taken to them, and that they feel like Assad just keeps rubbing their faces in it. Since he wouldn't do what Obama said and step down.

    So truly that was the first line Assad stepped over of an Obama line. Assad <<<<<Nah.....I don't think so.

    So the West helped aid the Saud and Qataris who all backed the Rebels thinking they will mop up Assad like they did Gadhafi.....Assad. <<<<<Nah I don't think so. I am fighting terrorists. Uhoo I'm Still Here.

    Then the UN coming out with the Press and saying the Rebels aren't such good guys.....Assad. I told you so! Rebels are killing unarmed civilians, Christians, and are massacring prisoners who have surrendered. In Yo Face.


    So yep the US and all think Assad thinks he is invincible.
    I doubt that Assad isn't sweating it out, but he does have strong backing that Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi didn't!

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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I doubt that Assad isn't sweating it out, but he does have strong backing that Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi didn't!
    Assad is under the safe assumption that Obama isn't going to do anything.
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    Re: 12 US intelligence officials tell Obama that Assad did not use chemical weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    As of today, the EU now disagrees with the 'illogical' argument...
    Well if the EU said it than it must be true

    Time to go to war and bomb some brown people! Obama! Obama! Obama!

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