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    Obamacare Will Force One Florida County to Make Nicotine Use Illegal

    This is the agenda behind Obamacare.

    http://www.theblaze.com/contribution...e-use-illegal/

    Next it will be cheeseburgers and transfat...

    This is how you regulate business - banning and regulating.

    I suppose it's the republicans that have a "war on _______" while these crazy ****ing progressives have a war on capitalism and anyone that isn't dark enough and whomever doesn't have a vagina or prays to the east 5 times a day...

    [b]Flagler County commissioners are taking a tough new stance against tobacco users looking for work – by considering nicotine a banned drug.

    Beginning Oct. 1, prospective county employees will be required to take a nicotine test in addition to pre-employment drug screening for illegal drugs.

    A failed test would not only deny an otherwise qualified applicant a job, but would also prohibit employment with the county for another 12 months.

    “The tobacco ban applies to anything that would produce nicotine,” said Joseph Mayer, Flagler County’s community services director. That includes cigarettes, chewing tobacco, e-cigarettes, pipes and snuff.

    Job applicants also must sign an affidavit stating, under penalty of perjury, that they have not used tobacco within one-year of employment.“It’s the same thing as drug use,” Mayer said. “We have a drug-free policy where everyone is tested for drug use before they come on board, and if they start using afterwards we won’t know until either a random test or a workers compensation incident.”
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    Re: I've called this nonsense since day one - The Agenda behind Obamacare.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    This is the agenda behind Obamacare.

    Obamacare Will Force One Florida County to Make Nicotine Use Illegal | TheBlaze.com

    Next it will be cheeseburgers and transfat...

    This is how you regulate business - banning and regulating.

    I suppose it's the republicans that have a "war on _______" while these crazy ****ing progressives have a war on capitalism and anyone that isn't dark enough and whomever doesn't have a vagina or prays to the east 5 times a day...
    That is an absurd leap. The article even states "The new policy is aimed at reducing health insurance costs" I think you can point your finger at the health insurance industry not Obamacare.
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    Re: I've called this nonsense since day one - The Agenda behind Obamacare.

    Of course people need jobs in this ****ty economy - nope only if you meet the GUBMINTS criteria....

    If people think this is a state or local issue it's NOT because this will become the status quo in a few years if people (Obamacare supporters) don't pull their heads out from their asses.

    But I suppose the objection to this Obamacare bull**** is "just because Obama is black" and not because hes an authoritarian tyrant with a nefarious agenda to destroy personal freedoms....

    Of course homosexuals transmit HIV at an epic rate but yet progressives and Obama in general supports "gay sex" yet smokers are being attacked???

    But no there is nothing Orwellian going on here????

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    Re: I've called this nonsense since day one - The Agenda behind Obamacare.

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    That is an absurd leap. The article even states "The new policy is aimed at reducing health insurance costs" I think you can point your finger at the health insurance industry not Obamacare.
    Thats the ****ing excuse they will use to ban fast food hence my point - the point I have been making for ****ing 3 years now...

    It's an excuse to demonize products and ban them - hence an opportunity to dictate economy considering industries are a large part of the economy...

    Get it?

    Obamacare grants government control over just about everything considering our surroundings and environment "effect our health."

    All our nefarious government has to say is "__________ is bad for your health hence it should be banned or taxed into oblivion" and of course the progressives will say "yes Jesus government lord our savior" and comply and promote that silly ban.
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    Re: I've called this nonsense since day one - The Agenda behind Obamacare.

    Conspiracy theory much?

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    Re: I've called this nonsense since day one - The Agenda behind Obamacare.

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Conspiracy theory much?
    Conspiracy theory? I just posted the ****ing proof..

    BTW, just about everything is a literal conspiracy.... Unless it's lone - it's a conspiracy...

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    Re: I've called this nonsense since day one - The Agenda behind Obamacare.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Conspiracy theory? I just posted the ****ing proof..

    BTW, just about everything is a literal conspiracy.... Unless it's lone - it's a conspiracy...
    Your definition of "proof" needs a little work...


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: I've called this nonsense since day one - The Agenda behind Obamacare.

    Of course, the county in question could just say they're not going to test for nicotine. But that's too easy, and couldn't be blamed on Obama.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: I've called this nonsense since day one - The Agenda behind Obamacare.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Of course, the county in question could just say they're not going to test for nicotine. But that's too easy, and couldn't be blamed on Obama.
    "They" could say whatever they like but that's not the direction they're going.

    Get it?

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    Re: I've called this nonsense since day one - The Agenda behind Obamacare.

    I've worked for five employers in my life (other than odd jobs before I turned 16, which was 25 years ago). Three of them wouldn't hire smokers, and would fire anyone they found out was a smoker, no second chance, do not pass go, do not collect $200. Now, I do not agree with this sort of policy. Nor do I agree that people ought to be tested for nicotine (or, for that matter, THC, psilocybin, and a few other drugs I think ought to be legal) prior to employment. But it seems quite a stretch to say that this is the point of Obamacare, even if this is one of its outcomes in places. The county seems to be imposing this restriction...do you seriously think Flagler county, Florida is secretly responsible for getting Obamacare passed? I mean, c'mon...

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