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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    It would be SO cute if the Syrians could actually nail a carrier with one of those Rooskie anti-ship missiles?
    Them things look like they'd be easy to shoot down?

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Seriously, stop embarrassing yourself. If the wind is from the stern...you turn. This is not rocket surgery. The navy was able to conduct ops with little trouble in both the Red Sea and the gulf. Your ignorance is not going to change that.
    All right, you win. I'm ignorant and there were no trouble in both the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf.

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    >" ABOARD THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN IN THE PERSIAN GULF — Desert dust blew over the flight deck of this aircraft carrier in powdery milk-colored waves, clogging plane engines, air intake valves, sight scopes and nostrils. Mixed with the slick residue of dripping hydraulic oil and grease from arresting cables, the landing surface was slippery enough to entice maintenance hands into body surfing.

    The fierce sandstorms that have slowed military operations in the Iraqi desert this week are also affecting air and naval operations. The sand, it seems, gets in everything, even ships at sea.

    In the dark, windowless Tactical Flag Command Center, Rear Adm. John M. Kelly removed his glasses and rubbed his eyes. Illuminated by the glow of intelligence read-outs and a muted television, Kelly listened grimly to his aides.

    "The Connie's deck is really getting clobbered," Cmdr. Larry Martin told his relief of conditions on the nearby USS Constellation, so lashed by wind and sand that one of its planes had just landed on the Lincoln instead. He rattled off names of airports in friendly Persian Gulf nations where carrier aircraft would be allowed to land if they got shut out by the increasingly foul weather.

    A few jets returned from airstrikes with damage to their canopies and engines. Shaken by the extended sorties over dust-shrouded enemy territory, pilots told of harrowing winds and whiteouts through which they would never have flown if there weren't ground troops in need of their cover.

    "We're maneuvering the carriers to get away from it as much as we can but sometimes there's no place to run," the admiral conceded. Six cycles of launches and recoveries had to be canceled on the three carriers, grounded by airborne grit, lightning and wind shear..."<
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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    It would be SO cute if the Syrians could actually nail a carrier with one of those Rooskie anti-ship missiles?
    Them things look like they'd be easy to shoot down?
    As soon as Obama orders just one Tomahawk missile to be launched against any target with in the sovereign territory of Syria, Obama has declared war against Syria and under international law Syria can launch those anti ship missiles against our ships.

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    That is my take on the dealio and since them things will be on the list of first strike targets they might as well use em or lose em.

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Jordan and Israel
    Don't be so sure. Jordan is not a given and Israel is not interested in opening their skies for a half assed destabilization effort. Both countries would have to believe that the sorties would actually help stabilize their neighbor rather than create a rogue state on their border.

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Run the whole thing out of the Med under the watchful eyes of the Soviets?

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    And I would have said because we are no longer conducting close air support in Iraq the carriers no longer play in the Persian Gulf. No mission, close to too many enemies and too crowded so another Vincennces incident could occur or another suicide boat on a screening vessel of the carrier group.

    Wear and tear and the additional cost sounds like a pansy excuse- you know- you keep claiming cost over rides defense in the liberal world....

    Seems all your running around with your hair on fire is for nought. You have no clue how many subs are with-in striking range- you seem to think the russian ships are super sub hunters when our subs are so quiet so compare them to listening for a flashlight.

    I remember the cold war days- any rumor of a Soviet anything sent the Defense Industry into a frenzy, Congress demanding a 'gap' must be closed when the real story was the noisy, leaky, inaccurate, soviet ships/tanks/aircraft were behind what we already had in inventory.

    My first hand knowledge of the wolf crying Cons came with the T62 MBT the Warsaw Pact had. Oh what big,bad armored vehicles they were!

    Until the Israelis blew them apart by the dozens with Centurion and M60 tanks- tanks we already had on the front line...


    Maybe your "first hand knowledge" isn't what it once was. The T62 was an improvement over the T55 but not much and the Russians were never satisfied with it. That's why before the first T62 came off line they were already working on their next tank, the T64.

    I'm guessing you are talking about the Yom Kipper War? Yes The Israelies had some M60's but it wasn't their main battle tank. They had more of our old M48's at the time. But regardless, they had the edge in training and they made the Syrian Army pay dearly for their lack of training. The equipment edge wasn't the deciding factor.
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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Obama must be a genius when it comes to fighting a war. Order 1/5th of your surface warships in the Mediterranean Sea to return home before the shooting starts.


    "<The guided missile destroyer USS Mahan (DDG-72) has left the Eastern Mediterranean en route to its homeport at Naval Station Norfolk, Va., according to several press reports.

    Mahan’s departure leaves four destroyers left to undertake an anticipated limited strike on Syria.


    Mahan had a planned ballistic missile defense (BMD) deployment extended in the U.S. 6th fleet area of operations while it waited for the U.S. to take action against the regime of Bashar al-Assad for an alleged chemical weapons attack on Aug. 21.

    Four destroyers — USS Stout (DDG-55), USS Ramage (DDG-61), USS Barry (DDG-52) and USS Gravely (DDG-107) — are left in Tomahawk Land Attack Missile (TLAM) in range of Syrian targets.

    There are also likely U.S. submarines in the region to assist in the attack, although the Navy does not typically discuss the positions of its submarine force. '<

    Continue.-> Destroyer USS Mahan Leaves Eastern Mediterranean | USNI News
    I don't see how it's a big deal. If the there was a real threat from a formidable enemy naval power, we'd have a hell of a lot more than a few destroyers out there.
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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    please tell me you are not one of "those" people who are blissfully ignorant of the context and meaning of the phrase "your boy"
    oh I'm thinking the ignorant, blissful or otherwise, is on a Con foot....

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    oh I'm thinking the ignorant, blissful or otherwise, is on a Con foot....
    could you repeat that in English? I don't speak liberalese
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