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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Are you aware that last week that Egyptian Islamist tried to attack a cargo ship transiting the Suez Canal ? If they would have succeeded in sinking that ship, the canal would be out of business for months, maybe for years. Europe would be screwed big time.

    Last week the international maritime industry said they are looking at using the Arctic as a route from getting ships from the Pacific to Europe if the worse case scenario happens.
    Did you know that Egyptian Islamists are not going to sink any of the ships in a Carrier Battle Group?
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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Has any one else noticed how desperately Aperachat is trying to divert from the fact that the premise of his thread proved to be bull****?
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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I remember the cold war days- any rumor of a Soviet anything sent the Defense Industry into a frenzy, Congress demanding a 'gap' must be closed when the real story was the noisy, leaky, inaccurate, soviet ships/tanks/aircraft were behind what we already had in inventory.

    My first hand knowledge of the wolf crying Cons came with the T62 MBT the Warsaw Pact had. Oh what big,bad armored vehicles they were!
    Those damn JFK liberals screaming about a gap and that they were tougher against communist expansion than the Republicans. That's how JFK got elected along with the help of a number of cemetaries in Cook County, Il.

    Your correct, many of those JFK liberals would become neo-cons during the 1970's.

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    another Con game- I know what has been said...limited strike, not invasion, not attempt to enforce no-fly zones. So yes you spew more Con quibble
    so , like I said, we simply lob in a dozen or so cruise missiles and call it a day. no backlash, no escalation, no nothing. Syria and their supporters just lay there and take it like a cheap hooker?

    my 2 cents... either you do nothing or you do something big enough to convince everyone that you are not bull****ting around. a half-assed "token" strike isn't going to accomplish anything except piss people off.
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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    We could likely fire a missile from Florida and have it hit Syria. They don't need to be in the Mediterranean for us to hit them. However, if they wan to hit us, they need to be there.

    Aircraft carrier in the Red Sea where the planes could fly over Saudi Arabia and Israel to get to Syria, and our ally Turkey is pretty darn close too.

    So the upshot is - a bunch of ships that probably won't be involved are not sitting waiting for Syria to attack them, meanwhile not reducing our capabilities.


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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Did you know that Egyptian Islamists are not going to sink any of the ships in a Carrier Battle Group?
    They don't need to sink any U.S. Navy ships, all they need to do is sink any merchant ship in the Suez Canal to #### everything up more than it already is.

    It was Obama who abandoned the Middle East and North Africa with his lead from behind. It was Obama who supported the Arab Spring. It was all of Obama's failed foreign policies why the Middle East is a complete basket case today.

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Those damn JFK liberals screaming about a gap and that they were tougher against communist expansion than the Republicans. That's how JFK got elected along with the help of a number of cemetaries in Cook County, Il.

    Your correct, many of those JFK liberals would become neo-cons during the 1970's.
    Oh how you love to re-write history! More like the Congress critters who had big defense industries in their districts...

    And I realize you have a poor grasp of who became Neo-cons but they were the Cons of the democratic party, not the liberals...

    But you want us to believe the GOP didn't have a bushel basket of 'gap-screamers'???

    Shirley you jest....

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    so , like I said, we simply lob in a dozen or so cruise missiles and call it a day. no backlash, no escalation, no nothing. Syria and their supporters just lay there and take it like a cheap hooker? my 2 cents... either you do nothing or you do something big enough to convince everyone that you are not bull****ting around. a half-assed "token" strike isn't going to accomplish anything except piss people off.
    You are going back to what we already discussed- a sort of Con broken record.

    Syria isn't in a position to do anything to us... no move is without risk and we sadly forgot when backing corrupt regimes in the ME before 9-11.

    Right now we are not taking sides in this civil war, we are punishing one side for using Chemical weapons. You keep trying to say we have to invade or just sit and watch... that is your opinion... have at it...

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Here, let me help you out:

    Attachment 67153151

    As you can see, Syria is right near the Red Sea. Please stop making yourself look silly.

    So what will the flight path be from the Red Sea to Syria? Who is letting us fly over their country?

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    You are going back to what we already discussed- a sort of Con broken record.

    Syria isn't in a position to do anything to us... no move is without risk and we sadly forgot when backing corrupt regimes in the ME before 9-11.

    Right now we are not taking sides in this civil war, we are punishing one side for using Chemical weapons. You keep trying to say we have to invade or just sit and watch... that is your opinion... have at it...
    I have never said we have to invade.

    your boy, Obama, said
    We have communicated in no uncertain terms with every player in the region that that's a red line for us and that there would be enormous consequences if we start seeing movement on the chemical weapons front or the use of chemical weapons
    a token/limited strike with a handful of cruise missiles is NOT enormous consequences
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