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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Here, let me help you out:

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    As you can see, Syria is right near the Red Sea. Please stop making yourself look silly.
    Come on Redress, weren't you a squid ? Why don't we no longer conduct carrier operations in the Persian Gulf ? The same reason you don't do it in the Red Sea.

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Come on Redress, weren't you a squid ? Why don't we no longer conduct carrier operations in the Persian Gulf ? The same reason you don't do it in the Red Sea.
    You can conduct carrier operations in both. I have done so. Also, do you know how long it takes a carrier group to traverse the Red Sea an d Suez Canal? Hint: It isn't long.
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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually you are so painfully wrong it is hilarious. Satellites can track carrier groups with ease. Further, active emissions make carrier groups painfully easy to locate for any one who wants to.
    How much does it cost to do so ?

    Satellites are in a fixed orbit. They are never sitting in one place or are they moving at 20 or 30 nautical miles per hour. So you wouldn't be able to track a CSG 24/7. Ships can change course easily. Satellites take some time to accomplish changing an orbit of a satellite. There positioning can be changed but it's not as easy as you think. You can't change a satellite equatorial orbit to a polar orbit.

    Since satellites can only cover a fraction of the oceans, America, NATO, China, Russia have maritime patrol aircraft that go out searching for the other guys ships. It's a big ocean out there and if all of the U.S. Navy ships were to all be tied up together, what are you looking at, less than a couple of square miles in 7,848,000 sq. mi. of oceans.

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You can conduct carrier operations in both. I have done so. Also, do you know how long it takes a carrier group to traverse the Red Sea an d Suez Canal? Hint: It isn't long.
    I know it's been done before but why don't we do it any more ?

    There are two reasons. It takes a large area to maneuver and carry out carrier flight operations. SOP is to put the carrier into the wind. The Navy still hasn't figured out how to control the direction of the wind. The Persian Gulf like the Red Sea are too small to carry out full carrier operations.

    But the biggest problem was all of the dust and sand that commonly is blowing across the Persian Gulf and Red Sea. It just does too much damage to our aircraft and our ships electronics.

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what, exactly, is the mission? a token missile attack on some abandoned buildings to save face?
    Yanno Oscar- President Obama nor any of his defense team consulted me so I could ask... how ever while the cons are quick to speak the double talk of the white devil... watched an old Burt Lancaster movie yesterday... what are you trying to say... is obama taking us into WWIII or an empty gesture...

    My thought something between the two.

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Yanno Oscar- President Obama nor any of his defense team consulted me so I could ask... how ever while the cons are quick to speak the double talk of the white devil... watched an old Burt Lancaster movie yesterday... what are you trying to say... is obama taking us into WWIII or an empty gesture...

    My thought something between the two.
    so you admit you have no idea what "the mission" actually is...but you can say with confidence:

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I do believe the US Navy has enough missiles in the area to accomplish the mission.
    how can you believe the Navy has enough missiles in the area to accomplish the mission....if you don't even know what the mission is?
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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    He's calling you Admiral while simultaneously questioning a decision that was probably made at the highest levels of the navy.
    Apache is one of those guys who knows more than the Joint Chiefs or any mere Admiral. He actually believes that Obama sits in a little room and decides which ships go where. Obama is an obsession with him.
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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    so you admit you have no idea what "the mission" actually is...but you can say with confidence:



    how can you believe the Navy has enough missiles in the area to accomplish the mission....if you don't even know what the mission is?
    I thought the mission was relatively easy to understand. To show the butcher Assad that launching chemical weapons has consequences. What is it about that that you don't understand?
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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    They are not. Entirely different guidance system. Once again, your ignorance is showing. Force size is going up, not down, missiles are not what you think...total failure on your part.
    You're so gullible Redress. I suppose I should have entered a smiley.

    Most people are aware that the guidance system used today on Tomahawks are different than used during the Clinton era and that Clinton never asked Congress to replace the hundreds of Tomahawks he used during his eight years as Cn'C just like why we ran out of .50 cal. machingun ammunition during the Iraq war. Clinton didn't replace the ammunition that was being used during eight years of training.

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    Re: 1/5 th of the USN surface warships depart the Mediterranean Sea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    I thought the mission was relatively easy to understand. To show the butcher Assad that launching chemical weapons has consequences. What is it about that that you don't understand?
    and just "HOW" are we going to do that? and just "HOW MANY" missiles is that going to take?
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