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Thread: Liberals reject Obama's case for Syria strikes; believe Obama and Kerry are lying

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    Re: Little support from liberal base on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Obama's "base" is considerably larger than this tiny subset of left wing loons.
    Well sure, of course I know that.

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    Re: Little support from liberal base on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well sure, of course I know that.
    Obama's base is neither going to switch to voting for republicants nor are they going to stop supporting demorats.
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    Re: Little support from liberal base on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Obama's base is neither going to switch to voting for republicants nor are they going to stop supporting demorats.
    And I do know that too!

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    Re: Little support from liberal base on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And I do know that too!
    OK, so what is the point of this thread? Are you somehow shocked that Obama could not care less about pleasing fringe elements that are in the bag for demorats no matter what?
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    Re: Little support from liberal base on Syria

    The point is that Syria is both dividing and bringing together the strangest of bedfellows. And while I'm well aware that harden leftists aren't going to defect to the GOP or something else, I enjoy seeing this.

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    Re: Little support from liberal base on Syria

    Progressives are usually wary of military intervention and presidential war power, so this is nothing new.

    What is new is that conservatives -- because of the pathology of Obamaphobia -- are all over the map on the Syrian issue. The conservative tendency is to push for war and demagogue a military issue to claim that Democratic presidents are weak unless they blow something up. But since Obama seems intent on blowing something up, conservatives had to put on the brakes and attack Obama for wanting to blow something up, pretending that they -- the party of Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld -- is reluctant to strike an Arab country.

    So the really funny thing here is the total incoherency of the conservative message and how these freaks are tying themselves into knots trying to pretend they are acting on principle. This is what happens when your philosophy is defined by vapid memes instead of thoughtful principles.

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    Re: Little support from liberal base on Syria

    At the very least this demonstrates why Obama is not the most liberal president in American history like some on the right are constantly saying. If he was, why would so many liberals be fed up?

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    Re: Little support from liberal base on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    At the very least this demonstrates why Obama is not the most liberal president in American history like some on the right are constantly saying. If he was, why would so many liberals be fed up?
    Don't confuse the tea partiers with the facts. They have their meme and they're sticking with it.

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    Re: Little support from liberal base on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Progressives are usually wary of military intervention and presidential war power, so this is nothing new.

    What is new is that conservatives -- because of the pathology of Obamaphobia -- are all over the map on the Syrian issue. The conservative tendency is to push for war and demagogue a military issue to claim that Democratic presidents are weak unless they blow something up. But since Obama seems intent on blowing something up, conservatives had to put on the brakes and attack Obama for wanting to blow something up, pretending that they -- the party of Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld -- is reluctant to strike an Arab country.

    So the really funny thing here is the total incoherency of the conservative message and how these freaks are tying themselves into knots trying to pretend they are acting on principle. This is what happens when your philosophy is defined by vapid memes instead of thoughtful principles.
    The last President to hold office that did not have a member of the military killed in action during his term (actually two) was....not a progressive....not a Democrat..he was GOP. Ike.

    I know, that fact doesn't fit your theme but then facts usually don't. Carry on with your story, we all know you will tell it exactly how you want.
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    Re: Little support from liberal base on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    The last President to hold office that did not have a member of the military killed in action during his term (actually two) was....not a progressive....not a Democrat..he was GOP. Ike.

    I know, that fact doesn't fit your theme but then facts usually don't. Carry on with your story, we all know you will tell it exactly how you want.
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