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Democrats Don't Want to See Obama "Shamed and Humiliated on the National Stage”

There is no shame. Maybe I should ask where is the shame?

imo, The civil war in Syria has the potential to turn into a regional and possible world conflict.

While preliminary indications are gas was used. What has not been determined is who used the gas.
One should ask yourself, If the US does a unilateral strike against Syria, will the people of Syria and the world respect us or hate us? If the US does not strike Syria, but takes the case against the Syrian govt to the UN, will the people of Syria and the world respect us or hate us.

President Obama can easily backtrack by stating he wants to see the UN investigation report and wants a definitive report that shows who did the gas attack. Then he will take the case to the world on what should be done. Going alone is not in the US best interest at this time.


See: thread title.
 
I find it interesting that you want to see the President of the United States shamed. That just doesn't seem normal.

it's not normal to want a bunch of people killed over the Presidents personal emotions.

voting to go to war so Obama doesn't get shamed is probably the most ****ed up basis I've ever heard of in my lifetime.

if doing the right thing results in Obama being shamed, i hope he is humiliated daily for the rest of his term.... this is about our country, not the man in the office... **** him.
 
Sending troops to war when they do not believe it is the special niche held by Demokrats. It is not Republicans who as a party vote to send troops to war for political expediency and then screw them when they're on the battlefield... also for political expediency. It's not Republican Senate Majority or Minority leaders who declare to our enemies "This War is Lost".

Back in 1969 when I was only 19 years old and was 10,000 miles from home it was no secret that it was the Democrats who got America involved in a shooting war in Southeast Asia. It was the Democrats who sent combat troops into harmsway. And it was the Democrats who eventually stabbed the American soldiers in the back and abandoned supporting the war.

That's when I said when I turn 21 years of age and I register to vote I'm not going to register as a Democrat. I registered as a Republican because I never heard of a Republican ever back stabbing American soldier in the back and abandoning them when they are still on the battlefield.
 
Back in 1969 when I was only 19 years old and was 10,000 miles from home it was no secret that it was the Democrats who got America involved in a shooting war in Southeast Asia. It was the Democrats who sent combat troops into harmsway. And it was the Democrats who eventually stabbed the American soldiers in the back and abandoned supporting the war.

That's when I said when I turn 21 years of age and I register to vote I'm not going to register as a Democrat. I registered as a Republican because I never heard of a Republican ever back stabbing American soldier in the back and abandoning them when they are still on the battlefield.

Obama is the CinC and I hear that republicants do that to him every chance that they get. ;)
 
So we will just kill how many thousands more? That is sanity?

As many as necessary to restore peace. Have you read Tacitus?
 
The Demokrats openly admit their vote to send America to war is about party politics. It is not about what is best for America, but what will protect Obama from shame and humiliation.

They did the same when it came to Iraq War 2. They were seen as a party weak on matters of national defense/national security, and to help themselves politically they voted to send troops to war. The Senate Demokrats even asked for a second symbolic vote to show they were not the anti-American party they had been perceived to be after 911.

Then these same Demokrats (except one lone wolf called Lieberman) turned on a popular president and troops on the battlefield who were having a tough time... for political expediency.

The vote to send America to war is the most serious vote an elected representative can make... it's not a party politics thing, but as we have learned... for Demokrats it is. This is why these idiots should be kept as far from the reigns of power as possible.

Demokrats...

Where is Obama's Plan?
What is our exit strategy?
What happens if this starts a chain reaction involving Iran and Israel?
What will a "shot across the bow" achieve?
Obama has proven to be a liar of majestic proportions on Benghazi... do you trust him?

WHERE ARE THE LOUD AND VOCAL ANTI-WAR LEFTISTS? What happened? A massive international case of laryngitis?



Lol you want to know about exit strategy? That is a definite no go area for a Rethuglican!

Who cares about Iran and Israel they have been fighting for 3000 years over land no one has the deed to.

Obama a liar that's rich considering we had Bush who is a goddamn liar and has been in fact proven. Your opinion on Benghazi is what is . Where was your outrage when it happen a dozen times under Bush. I trust Obama more than I would any Republican we have all seen the **** they pull.

Oh and the anti war left is screaming we do not want any war. Maybe if you turned off the rightwing propaganda machine Fox you would know that! You lost all cred when you posted that nonsence.
 
I find it interesting that you want to see the President of the United States shamed. That just doesn't seem normal.

Are we supposed to support an idiot. He shamed himself. Period. This guy has no clue and the world is laughing at him as most of the US is. But hey there is a saying "stand by your man", have at it.
 
Blaming Bush again? At least in those wars, we had a legitimate reason to attack. The proposed bombing of Syria is just to save the President's ass from looking stupid.

Lol you want to know about exit strategy? That is a definite no go area for a Rethuglican!

Who cares about Iran and Israel they have been fighting for 3000 years over land no one has the deed to.

Obama a liar that's rich considering we had Bush who is a goddamn liar and has been in fact proven. Your opinion on Benghazi is what is . Where was your outrage when it happen a dozen times under Bush. I trust Obama more than I would any Republican we have all seen the **** they pull.

Oh and the anti war left is screaming we do not want any war. Maybe if you turned off the rightwing propaganda machine Fox you would know that! You lost all cred when you posted that nonsence.
 
Obama is the CinC and I hear that republicants do that to him every chance that they get. ;)

From what I hear from those serving, Obama has never earned the respect from those who serve under his command.
After four years as Cn'C and ordering U.S. Marines to violate long standing Marine Corps regulations that Marines are forbidden to carry rain umbrellas. And when you order U.S. Marines to remove their bolts from their rifles while marching during the President inaugeration perade. What message was Obama sending out to thiose who are suppose to serve under his command ?
 
Blaming Bush again? At least in those wars, we had a legitimate reason to attack. The proposed bombing of Syria is just to save the President's ass from looking stupid.


There was not a legitimate reason to attack Iraq! Whatever could you mean?
 
From what I hear from those serving, Obama has never earned the respect from those who serve under his command.
After four years as Cn'C and ordering U.S. Marines to violate long standing Marine Corps regulations that Marines are forbidden to carry rain umbrellas. And when you order U.S. Marines to remove their bolts from their rifles while marching during the President inaugeration perade. What message was Obama sending out to thiose who are suppose to serve under his command ?

Not disputing what you've said here, but can you defend it?
 
Blaming Bush again? At least in those wars, we had a legitimate reason to attack. The proposed bombing of Syria is just to save the President's ass from looking stupid.

I would love to hear he exact reason we attacked Iraq?? Because I never actually heard a good reason, plus where was the exit strategy stand on a flight deck with mission accomplished did not go so well. Or his flat ass failure to get Bin Laden?? How many service men and women gave their lives for that selfish asshole???

I agree Obama does not need to get us involved in Syria, he needs to stand up and say my bad **** ya'll this time light up a Kool and call it a day!
 
Back in 1969 when I was only 19 years old and was 10,000 miles from home it was no secret that it was the Democrats who got America involved in a shooting war in Southeast Asia. It was the Democrats who sent combat troops into harmsway. And it was the Democrats who eventually stabbed the American soldiers in the back and abandoned supporting the war.

That's when I said when I turn 21 years of age and I register to vote I'm not going to register as a Democrat. I registered as a Republican because I never heard of a Republican ever back stabbing American soldier in the back and abandoning them when they are still on the battlefield.

Dwight D. Eisenhower was a Republican he as I recall from my 5th grade history teacher the President that got us involved in Vietnam backing the French. Sure Lyndon Johnson was the one that upped the troops, but history shows America troops were on the ground before Kennedy! So your beloved Republican party has put plenty of knives in the backs of our service men! Nice try though
 
Not disputing what you've said here, but can you defend it?

Defend what ?

The Corps ?

Defending the established American military customs, culture, traditions and long time regulations ?

I don't think I, those who have served and those serving today need to defend our customs, culture and traditions.

When those customs, culture and traditions are challenged and attacked by liberals, American soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen bleed and die.
 
Dwight D. Eisenhower was a Republican he as I recall from my 5th grade history teacher the President that got us involved in Vietnam backing the French. Sure Lyndon Johnson was the one that upped the troops, but history shows America troops were on the ground before Kennedy! So your beloved Republican party has put plenty of knives in the backs of our service men! Nice try though

No, actually, the first American military mission, advisors, and personnel in Vietnam occurred in 1950, under Truman, after the "Vietnam War" had been underway for a few years.
 
Defend what ?

The Corps ?

Defending the established American military customs, culture, traditions and long time regulations ?

I don't think I, those who have served and those serving today need to defend our customs, culture and traditions.

When those customs, culture and traditions are challenged and attacked by liberals, American soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen bleed and die.

No, I just meant do you have a link to support that? I already said I wasn't disputing it, I haven't heard that. Can you back it up?
 
No, actually, the first American military mission, advisors, and personnel in Vietnam occurred in 1950, under Truman, after the "Vietnam War" had been underway for a few years.

I can except that! I just see it a little different I was pointing to the direct nation building that seems to be a big thing for Republicans and now for the worse Dem's. I am still trying to figure out where our country got the out right nerve to tell other countries how to Govern. e have no business doing that.
 
Defend what ?

The Corps ?

Defending the established American military customs, culture, traditions and long time regulations ?

I don't think I, those who have served and those serving today need to defend our customs, culture and traditions.

When those customs, culture and traditions are challenged and attacked by liberals, American soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen bleed and die.

OMG really?? Are you actually bring up the fact that the President asked two Marines to preform a courtesy for a Prime Minister by keeping a guest dry. Really talk about nit picking is your hatred so bad that it has come to this. Hell even my Grandpa so no harm in this and he served through two wars. You hatred is asinine and an embarrassing to anyone that has ever served.
 
OMG really?? Are you actually bring up the fact that the President asked two Marines to preform a courtesy for a Prime Minister by keeping a guest dry. Really talk about nit picking is your hatred so bad that it has come to this. Hell even my Grandpa so no harm in this and he served through two wars. You hatred is asinine and an embarrassing to anyone that has ever served.


Yes, I believe he is!
 
Dwight D. Eisenhower was a Republican he as I recall from my 5th grade history teacher the President that got us involved in Vietnam backing the French. Sure Lyndon Johnson was the one that upped the troops, but history shows America troops were on the ground before Kennedy! So your beloved Republican party has put plenty of knives in the backs of our service men! Nice try though

No offence Greengirl but how old are you ? Were you indoctrinated by your fifth grade teacher with liberal revisionist history ?

Did your 5th grade teacher also tell you that President Eisenhower warned JFK not to get involved with the corrupt RVN government (Diem regime) ? That Eisenhower warned JFK not to fall back to the 17th parallel to stop communist expansion in southeast asia ?

Most historians believe if Richard Nixon would have won the presidential election in 1960 and would have held on to Eisenhower's policies, there were have never been an American Vietnam war.
 
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