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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So then he hasn't pushed a single socialist reform - like say abolition of property - but his goal is to do just that by keeping up a capitalist front? Well, that's a pretty stupid plan aka conspiracy theory.
    government take over of health care isn't a socialist idea? Government take over of an automotive company isn't a socialist idea? the million he had government invest into green energy programs that the majority have failed isn't a socialist idea. Sir you have no clue what is socialism

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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    government take over of health care isn't a socialist idea?
    No. It really isn't. Capitalist societies can have collective institutions. Is the defense of our borders socialism? The government has taken over that. Is the military socialism? The government controls that. Are highways socialism? The government controls the spending on those. If anything the government "controls" is socialism, we've been socialists since the days of Washington. However, as the government doesn't control healthcare, your entire point is moot.

    Government take over of an automotive company isn't a socialist idea?
    As the government hasn't taken control of any automotive company, again nonstarter.

    the million he had government invest into green energy programs that the majority have failed isn't a socialist idea. Sir you have no clue what is socialism
    It seems as if you don't know what socialism is. Your contention is that anything the government takes over is socialism. If that is they case, answer these questions:

    Is anti-choice government policy socialism? After all, it would be the government taking over a personal choice. Even at the state level, and according to you, it's socialism.

    Is border enforcement legislation socialism? After all, the government is taking over control of the borders. Even at the state level, and according to you, it's socialism.

    Are sidewalks and roads socialism? After all, the government regulates all aspects related to these. Even at the state level, and according to you, it's socialism.

    Your definition of socialism is so broad that your very presence on the internet can be attributed to socialist action. After all, the government legislates many aspects of telecommunications and how we access the web. So then if we are to go by your notion of what is and isn't socialist here is a short list of things: the internet, roads, borders, the military, anti-choice policy.

    Are you sure this is the road you want to go down?
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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Finally even the dumb oaf longshoremen have had enough of this crap?
    By cracky there may be hope for this country yet ?

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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    abolition of property
    would it not be prudent to repeal the 2nd amendment prior to that?
    just sayin'

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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Mmm Katie yum

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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    would it not be prudent to repeal the 2nd amendment prior to that?
    just sayin'
    Who has tried to repeal the 2nd amendment?
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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Only it wasn't a summary. A summary would imply that the reasons being mentioned on that page have been mentioned before. Did you read the letter? It still doesn't sound like you did. Please do. Page 3 is a continuation of a paragraph started on page 2 - which cites:

    - Shakiness of the AFL
    - ObamaCare
    - Immigration reform
    - The ILWU's refusal to compromise

    All of which are reasons which are NEVER mentioned throughout the other 2 pages because the other 2 pages are composed of OTHER reason the ILWU leaving the AFL-CIO.

    Again, you're looking mighty desperate. This letter is a list of reasons as to why the ILWU is leaving the AFL-CIO. One of which is ObamaCare and yet it isn't even the primary reason for leaving because they cite about 8 other reasons LONG before they cite ObamaCare. Your narrative is starting to fall apart.
    I suggest you look for work so you will understand how to comprehend communication in the business world.

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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    You really need to stop taking Breitbart seriously.
    didn't come from there, guess you can't read

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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    didn't come from there, guess you can't read
    Breitbart was the original sorce of that "reinterpretation" of reality. I don't need to guess at your comprehension capability.
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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    I think Obamacare is pretty much an equal opportunity screw job.
    perhaps the worse piece of legislation in the last 50 years.

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