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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes, 3rd page on TWO SENTENCES out of 3 pages is what backs up your contention that the REAL reason the ILWU is leaving is because of ObamaCare. And not the AFL's violations of solidarity agreements, attacks on the ILWU by the AFL, lack of support - yes, those two sentences are REALLY the reason they're leaving - and not the fact that the AFL has basically backstabbed its own members on a number of occasions.
    Again, your comprehension skills are very questionable. Do you not understand basic math?

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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't expect Libertarians to be a bright bunch.
    I guess that make you libertarian then. Either that or just another liberal who cant compose a rational argument without hurling broad brush insults. For the record, I read the letter. Ironically, I came to the same conclusion you did. But that presents us with a problem now doesn't it. Either I am a liberal (which I am not) or your initial argument was fallacious and stupid.

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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Again, your comprehension skills are very questionable. Do you not understand basic math?
    I asked you already: Why is it the reason for leaving the ALF-CIO is only mentioned on two sentences halfway down the 3rd page?
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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I guess that make you libertarian then. Either that or just another liberal who cant compose a rational argument without hurling broad brush insults. For the record, I read the letter. Ironically, I came to the same conclusion you did. But that presents us with a problem now doesn't it. Either I am a liberal (which I am not) or your initial argument was fallacious and stupid.
    You're a Liberal. - Libertarians don't have reading comprehension skills.

    See: OP.
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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I asked you already: Why is it the reason for leaving the ALF-CIO is only mentioned on two sentences halfway down the 3rd page?
    Are you serious? did you count commas too? OMFG! how many times was "the" used?

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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Are you serious? did you count commas too? OMFG! how many times was "the" used?
    You're avoiding the point. Why is it that the reason for leaving the AFL-CIO is not mentioned a SINGLE time outside of those two sentences? Not even in reference? You're getting desperate to avoid the fact you never even read the letter. How does that feel?
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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're avoiding the point. Why is it that the reason for leaving the AFL-CIO is not mentioned a SINGLE time outside of those two sentences? Not even in reference? You're ducking now. How does that feel?
    No you are missing the point, the fact that it is mentioned is enough. Not when or how many times, should they have put it in bold for you?

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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're a Liberal. - Libertarians don't have reading comprehension skills.

    See: OP.
    That's just stupid. But unlike you, I wont take the stupidity of one liberal and tar all liberals with that label. Now, you go back to trolling.

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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    No you are missing the point, the fact that it is mentioned is enough. Not when or how many times, should they have put it in bold for you?
    Yes, and MLK mentions rings in his I have a Dream speech. That doesn't make his speech about telephones. Now, with that aside, why is it that you picked those 2 sentences as the REASON the ILWU is leaving when there are far more obvious reasons for why they're choosing to leave? Is it because it fits your narrative far better? You literally picked 2 sentences out of 3 pages to cite that as THE definite reason for why the ILWU is leaving. You keep talking about people being blind, yet you have serious tunnel vision.
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    Re: Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Again, your comprehension skills are very questionable. Do you not understand basic math?
    Speaking of basic math. Longshoremen are a fast-disappearing breed since the introduction of shipping containers, mechanisation, and computerised loading. All of these have meant massive job losses world wide. With fewer members contributing, the further loss of members to competing unions who should be prevented from doing so by AFL/CIO agreements which are not being enforced, makes their union's very existence unsustainable. THAT's why they're leaving.
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