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    Re: 1-Year-Old Boy Shot In The Head In New York City Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Which approach is which? You didn't really make it clear and I don't want to asssume.
    I think you know.

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    Re: 1-Year-Old Boy Shot In The Head In New York City Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I think you know.
    Ok we'll I just assume you're looking at some facts on murder rates and gun laws, and fact is for the most part there's higher rates of gun violence in states with the least restrictive gun laws as opposed to the more restrictive states.

    Of course I've always said that there's a whole lot more than the nature of laws that affect crime, including gun crime, I am by no means saying that gun laws are the end all be all of what affects gun violence and gun death. However, its quite clear that lose gun laws don't automatically translate into reduced crime or gun deaths.

    So it would be most accurate to say that approaching the problem from the perspective of the law only, whether you support more restrictive or less restrictive gun laws, and looking at nothing else is the idealisitc and non-realistic approach.

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    Re: 1-Year-Old Boy Shot In The Head In New York City Dies

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    The u.s. government murdered more children and adults at waco than lanza did at that school..
    One armed UAV strike kills more people, and we send those things out on the regular.
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    1-Year-Old Boy Shot In The Head In New York City Dies

    Perhaps more important than laws and violence rates in which states, one might consider who is committing the violent acts as a starting point for a solution.

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    Re: 1-Year-Old Boy Shot In The Head In New York City Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    one might consider who is committing the violent acts as a starting point for a solution.
    That's racist
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    Re: 1-Year-Old Boy Shot In The Head In New York City Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    It worked fine in Australia. Actually more than fine.

    Did gun control work in Australia?
    That study would be pertinent if firearm homicide was the only method of homicide but it isn't. Do a little more research and tell us all how much the Australian homicide rate dropped between 1995 and 2010 compared to how much the US homicide rate dropped during that same period WITHOUT confiscating everybody's firearms.

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    Re: 1-Year-Old Boy Shot In The Head In New York City Dies

    Frankly both sides of this never-ending debate come across as extremist to me. Banning automatic weapons is one thing, and it might even work, but handguns are quite another. There's what, 200 million of them, with a half life of 100 years? This makes it easy for even those who can't purchase firearms to get them on the black market. It's also possible to make these in a garage. There's no question that guns result in more homicides, but there's no practical or palatable way to get rid of them all. It's way too late for that.

    On the other side you have real crazies who think if this toddler or his parents had a gun, the death would have been prevented, and so the logical course is to allow toddlers to bear arms. They have no sense of shame and will show up at a gun nut rally in colorado after every school shooting.

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    Re: 1-Year-Old Boy Shot In The Head In New York City Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    NY Post says the baby's father was the intended target. 16-month-old baby shot dead by killer gunning for his father - NYPOST.com
    If he was a "changed man", why was he a target in the first place?
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    Re: 1-Year-Old Boy Shot In The Head In New York City Dies

    gun control is hitting what you aim at, these shooters need to spend more time on the range

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    Re: 1-Year-Old Boy Shot In The Head In New York City Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    If he was a "changed man", why was he a target in the first place?
    That I don't know. WaPo says the shooting may have been gang-related. Even if the father, whose arrest record is serious, was trying to go straight, maybe his former friends had a beef. The tragedy is that an innocent little kid has been killed. Police: Dad of NYC toddler shot in stroller was likely target, shooting might be gang-related - The Washington Post

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