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1-Year-Old Boy Shot In The Head In New York City Dies

Gipper said:
I think you know.
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Ok we'll I just assume you're looking at some facts on murder rates and gun laws, and fact is for the most part there's higher rates of gun violence in states with the least restrictive gun laws as opposed to the more restrictive states.

Of course I've always said that there's a whole lot more than the nature of laws that affect crime, including gun crime, I am by no means saying that gun laws are the end all be all of what affects gun violence and gun death. However, its quite clear that lose gun laws don't automatically translate into reduced crime or gun deaths.

So it would be most accurate to say that approaching the problem from the perspective of the law only, whether you support more restrictive or less restrictive gun laws, and looking at nothing else is the idealisitc and non-realistic approach.
 
Perhaps more important than laws and violence rates in which states, one might consider who is committing the violent acts as a starting point for a solution.
 
Middleground said:
It worked fine in Australia. Actually more than fine.

Did gun control work in Australia?
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That study would be pertinent if firearm homicide was the only method of homicide but it isn't. Do a little more research and tell us all how much the Australian homicide rate dropped between 1995 and 2010 compared to how much the US homicide rate dropped during that same period WITHOUT confiscating everybody's firearms.
 
Frankly both sides of this never-ending debate come across as extremist to me. Banning automatic weapons is one thing, and it might even work, but handguns are quite another. There's what, 200 million of them, with a half life of 100 years? This makes it easy for even those who can't purchase firearms to get them on the black market. It's also possible to make these in a garage. There's no question that guns result in more homicides, but there's no practical or palatable way to get rid of them all. It's way too late for that.

On the other side you have real crazies who think if this toddler or his parents had a gun, the death would have been prevented, and so the logical course is to allow toddlers to bear arms. They have no sense of shame and will show up at a gun nut rally in colorado after every school shooting.
 
gun control is hitting what you aim at, these shooters need to spend more time on the range
 
OK What is the point of this thread? That a 1 year old child being shot is a bad thing?
Really what's the point of this, was this ever on the rails to begin with?
Most people went off on the anti-gun meme.
A baby got blasted, they prolly meant to shoot the worthless father, so what?
 
Lutherf said:
Hard to imagine how this could possibly happen in a city with some of the most stringent gun control laws in the country. I figure that if this batch of laws hasn't worked it's high time for NY to make some more laws. Maybe they could have a "SUPER SAFE Act".
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New York will never figure out how to think for themselves.
 
TiredOfLife said:
He could have used a blue whale dropped from a space shuttle but he didn't. He used what people normally use when they want to kill something, a gun. And see, it worked exactly as designed, leaving us lots of dead bodies to bury, many in very small coffins.
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Can you site these "lots" of very small bodies. This and the woman who was robbed where the robber shot her child in the face are the only two recently that I can think of? I wonder how many small children during this time were killed in auto wrecks.
 
Texmex said:
Can you site these "lots" of very small bodies. This and the woman who was robbed where the robber shot her child in the face are the only two recently that I can think of? I wonder how many small children during this time were killed in auto wrecks.
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Statistically, about 7 times as many die in traffic accidents as any kind of shooting. That's children in the general sense... I think for SMALL children its more like 40 to 1.
 
Texmex said:
Can you site these "lots" of very small bodies. This and the woman who was robbed where the robber shot her child in the face are the only two recently that I can think of? I wonder how many small children during this time were killed in auto wrecks.
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Or aborted. That's the point I'm stuck on with Syria. 1500 die from chemical weapons and Obama has to rush in with missiles. Meanwhile about that many are aborted in this country every day and it is upheld as a woman's "right". It's not that they died, it's how they died, making the assumption that our federal government has some sort of moral authority. I think we've seen enough evidence that they do not.
 
tech30528 said:
Or aborted. That's the point I'm stuck on with Syria. 1500 die from chemical weapons and Obama has to rush in with missiles. Meanwhile about that many are aborted in this country every day and it is upheld as a woman's "right". It's not that they died, it's how they died, making the assumption that our federal government has some sort of moral authority. I think we've seen enough evidence that they do not.
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Obama doesn't care any more about these Syrians than he does the children killed each day by abortion. It's just another political tool he is using to farther his own agenda.
 
Texmex said:
Obama doesn't care any more about these Syrians than he does the children killed each day by abortion. It's just another political tool he is using to farther his own agenda.
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Exactly. Kind of like the black on black murders in Chicago don't get mentioned. Now have a black kid killed by a white Hispanic and it's an issue.
 
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