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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Standards yes, morals yes, religious traditions yes but forcing them upon people who do not have your standards, your morals, your religious traditions does not seem in line with libertarian views IMHO. That sounds more like conservative moralistic and religious authoritarianism.
    it also sounds like progressivism, socialism, communism, liberalism, fascism etc etc etc.

    very few ideologies besides libertarianism don't force morals and standards down peoples throats using the force of the state.... it's libertarianisms greatest strength, and greatest weakness.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    thats easy
    its easier to use strawmen and appeals to emotion and fallacies to attack than reality

    are there old people that dont know any better or are mentally off? of course but that doesnt mean they all are. So when they (old people) are showing a person up or have facts or logic a person doesnt like SOME people choose to just TRY and lump them in with the lesser group.

    this doesnt work with honest objective people though and its as transparent as glass.
    Exactly, you always have the co-hones to call them out on that BTW. Well done. I am much concerned with being diplomatic sometimes at the expense of my voice.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I can't speak accurately to your beliefs or intent (I don't reside in your head).. only to how your words read.
    you're often very disrespectful to your rivals(conservatives), while demanding they be nice to you.
    You are welcome to your opinion. I think, for the most part, I respond in kind when a conservative comes on too strong and gets personal or makes unfounded accusations. Whether I am successful at maintaining the civility I value remains subjective. I try. I appreciate your feedback and I'll think about it though.
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I think this is Ginsburg giving all those close minded haters the finger. Awesome!

    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg will become the nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony, the Washington Post reports, marrying Kennedy Center President Michael M. Kaiser and economist John Roberts on Saturday.

    Justice Ginsburg Becomes First Supreme Court Justice To Officiate Same-Sex Wedding | ThinkProgress
    I don't have a particular problem with this - seems like no big deal to me. The only comment I would make is that Ginsburg should be officiating over straight marriages too and not just for those whom she's good friends with. To do otherwise, is to use the office you hold to the benefit of your friends which is a form of corruption.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    it also sounds like progressivism, socialism, communism, liberalism, fascism etc etc etc.

    very few ideologies besides libertarianism don't force morals and standards down peoples throats using the force of the state.... it's libertarianisms greatest strength, and greatest weakness.
    I am not denying most of what you have written but I still am of the opinion that the person that I directed this post at, was not talking like a libertarian but wants to force/impose his views/standards and traditions on the public at large and from what I have read about libertarianism, that is not what being a libertarian is about.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't have a particular problem with this - seems like no big deal to me. The only comment I would make is that Ginsburg should be officiating over straight marriages too and not just for those whom she's good friends with. To do otherwise, is to use the office you hold to the benefit of your friends which is a form of corruption.
    I can accept that. But I would say it is a public endorsement of your person beliefs and benefits that belief more than your friends. Which is a valid point considering her position.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    You are welcome to your opinion. I think I response in kind when a conservative comes on too strong and gets personal or makes unfounded accusations. Whether I am successful at maintaining the civility I value remains subjective. I try
    I really wasn't making a value judgement either way, as I really don't care if you are civil or not.

    I don't see you as being any more or less civil than the average schmoe around here... but i do take exception with you sort of blaming conservatives for your "bad" behavior and not crediting them with your "good " behavior.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I am not denying most of what you have written but I still am of the opinion that the person that I directed this post at, was not talking like a libertarian but wants to force/impose his views/standards and traditions on the public at large and from what I have read about libertarianism, that is not what being a libertarian is about.
    we agree on that point, most assuredly...

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Only to those who want to stay trapped in the quagmire of our disgraceful history of bigotry and exclusion.
    Very rarely does she get it right... this is one of those EXTREMELY rare times. She is a absolute disgrace to this county almost every other time.
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I really wasn't making a value judgement either way, as I really don't care if you are civil or not.

    I don't see you as being any more or less civil than the average schmoe around here... but i do take exception with you sort of blaming conservatives for your "bad" behavior and not crediting them with your "good " behavior.
    Okay. You know I tried right here to hear you, acknowledge that I heard you and even let you know that I would consider your perspective and this is your response. Thank you for promoting the impulse to dismiss conservatives.

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